2016 Postmortem

ancianita

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12. It was definitely hijacked as slur back then.Yet even his recent voting record reflects his words.

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:17 AM

Sep 2015

If you're trying to preserve the current best definition of "liberal," I'm with you.

But the issue isn't in our collective defining over Biden's.

The issue is whether PoC can even trust the very best liberals if they vote for leaders like Biden who have sold out to "tough on crime" covers for racism, as Nixon, Reagan and Clinton did back in the day when the economic gains of their families were literally demolished, and their voter franchise taken away with the "felon" label.

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Ta-Nehisi Coates on Joe Biden: "Biden cast Democrats as the true party without mercy." [View all] ancianita Sep 2015 OP

I'm questioning his notion of 'the liberal' wing... haikugal Sep 2015 #1

Regardless, JB presumed to speak for them, emphatically. I don't recall them protesting his stance. ancianita Sep 2015 #3

I don't think this guy speaks for all people of color why would anyone think Biden haikugal Sep 2015 #5

A McArthur genius is influential. If Biden's words are his issue, the party needs to get out ancianita Sep 2015 #9

I'm not questioning his genius. haikugal Sep 2015 #10

It was definitely hijacked as slur back then.Yet even his recent voting record reflects his words. ancianita Sep 2015 #12

Agreed, however... haikugal Sep 2015 #13

You'll have to explain the dog whistle interpretation. Do you mean Biden? Coates? Me? ancianita Sep 2015 #15

I mistook Biden's quote as being Coates... haikugal Sep 2015 #18

Not a problem! Thanks for all your input! ancianita Sep 2015 #19

C'mon, people. Maybe some are too young to remember Biden's role in the Clarence Thomas hearings brush Sep 2015 #28

That's a quote of Biden, not Coates. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #4

Yes, however Coates is on about liberals and their horrible policies... haikugal Sep 2015 #7

Fine. Then maybe the high praise for his being in the race will damp down with a bit of realism. ancianita Sep 2015 #14

Agreed completely! haikugal Sep 2015 #16

I take issue with Biden calling himself a liberal, he's a big business DOMA yes voter. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #26

And who is blaming liberals, again? ancianita Sep 2015 #27

Apologies and my thanks... haikugal Sep 2015 #17

Well WE have to believe he said them. And HE has to NOW explain this. It's No Small Thing these days ancianita Sep 2015 #20

We all have to address this, I agree completely! POC in particular. haikugal Sep 2015 #21

Damned right. And yet, so far this "Biden issue" has gotten little response here. We ignore this at ancianita Sep 2015 #22

I like your passion and agree completely on all counts. haikugal Sep 2015 #23

What a terrible smear, accurately quoting his record!!! jeff47 Sep 2015 #2

No, Biden et al & IMO fredamae Sep 2015 #6

Joe should probably stay out, but it's interesting that BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #8

When OUR party's #2 has not answered vetted issues, we can lose by attrition of voter confidence. ancianita Sep 2015 #11

I think of Biden as the DOMA voting Senator from Capital One, the only reason I have ever voted Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #24

Seriously. I love the man personally. But he knows what his Delaware does for corporations. ancianita Sep 2015 #25

It's hard to work myself up over a 21-year-old quote... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #29