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beerandjesus

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80. He's a sharp guy, and we've been close friends for the better part of 20 years.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:42 PM
Oct 2015

And he has a really open mind; he's been living in San Francisco since long before I met him, but he came out here a few months ago and we spent a week driving around South Carolina... and he absolutely loved it. (Admittedly, there was a lot of record shopping involved, a vice we share).

But although he's not politically stupid, he's nowhere near the wonk I am--or most of the people on this forum are. He pays some attention--not a ton, but some--and he's the sort of person who will really think about what he hears. But even though it may sound like it from this post, he most decidedly did NOT come out of the gate swinging for Bernie, as people like me did. (I've been a fan of Bernie's since the 90s--again, the wonk thing, which my friend and I do NOT have in common, hahaha.) Admittedly, because he's smart, he recognizes that the Republicans have wandered so far off the reservation that they're out somewhere in the Pacific, but he might well have gone for Hillary over Bernie, if not for what he outlines in the message.

Thanks for reading it, and thanks for the friendly comment!

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #1
:) cprise Oct 2015 #2
I wonder what your dialogue will be busterbrown Oct 2015 #75
Since we are getting into the hypothetical, what would the public's reaction be to such a circumstance? leftupnorth Oct 2015 #87
Better question: Who appeals more to swing/independent voters? cprise Oct 2015 #88
Parlor advocate liberals Prism Oct 2015 #3
Oh really? daleanime Oct 2015 #8
Really. Android3.14 Oct 2015 #12
Sorry..... daleanime Oct 2015 #15
Are you capable of intelligent discourse, or just snark? [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #27
Ask me a real question... daleanime Oct 2015 #34
FYI: I'm a boomer, and my peers.. we aren't comfortable or economically secure.. 2banon Oct 2015 #73
I think I support most of Bernie's issues too upaloopa Oct 2015 #4
Bernie has changed the entire discussion 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #6
+1 - You win! Unfortunately, the Empire may trump. After all, it's THEIR money! erronis Oct 2015 #20
Other side of the Coin Rilgin Oct 2015 #7
when HRC flip flops on an issue, any of the many issues by the way, bumprstickr Oct 2015 #29
They tie themselves into knots hifiguy Oct 2015 #54
Don't forget.. cannabis_flower Oct 2015 #68
Yes I'm sure that you can imagine it..... daleanime Oct 2015 #9
I'm so glad marym625 Oct 2015 #16
+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #53
"OK, here's what we're gonna do." Plucketeer Oct 2015 #17
With his experience and my observation of him ms liberty Oct 2015 #36
I see h telling her cabinet artislife Oct 2015 #43
I envision her moving her cabinet meetings to Wall Street. Divernan Oct 2015 #46
More anecdotal data is coming in cosmicone Oct 2015 #5
Yes, we know that you don't want to listen to us..... daleanime Oct 2015 #10
That's right! A vote for anyone but the most conservative Democrat is..... beerandjesus Oct 2015 #11
Does it take an independent to save the Democratic Party from itself? aidbo Oct 2015 #13
You know, Bernie's run such a good campaign as "Bernie" that maybe erronis Oct 2015 #22
Oh, What is it like getting old? I am 67 and feel like I am rooting for RFK. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #23
Hey geezer, speak for yourself... I'd love to see some real young people erronis Oct 2015 #33
I don't think Bernie will run again if he doesn't make it this time. aidbo Oct 2015 #28
I think if he had run from the outside Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #31
K&R! marym625 Oct 2015 #14
I was driving in town yesterday Plucketeer Oct 2015 #18
K&R Dem2 Oct 2015 #19
so true and hard to deal with . olddots Oct 2015 #21
Thank you, Very good. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #24
+1000 Bernie is bringing people back into the system! LongTomH Oct 2015 #25
Coward. This is the word that comes to mind every time I jwirr Oct 2015 #26
absolutely Locrian Oct 2015 #45
In addition to the other responses jeff47 Oct 2015 #62
I have a Facebook friend who should be on LibDemAlways Oct 2015 #65
In the context of this OP, I'm perplexed by the energetic support for Hillary on DU. Maedhros Oct 2015 #30
Some folks, even on the left, are doing very well under the 'status quo'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #32
They live in a denial bubble that ignores the 50 million Americans living in poverty. Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Oct 2015 #38
...and they have the gall to pretend that those of us supporting BERNIE are the "privileged" ones. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #40
We have to fight. Lives are on the line. It's a moral issue to ignore the millions living in poverty rhett o rick Oct 2015 #41
I ran into a bunch of those kind of people at a Joan Baez concert at Washington Park in Portland OR Maedhros Oct 2015 #44
Sadly, some of DU's owners and leading HRC fans are getting paid dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #39
I wonder Locrian Oct 2015 #47
That describes most Clinton support here. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #70
But, but, but...she's a progressive. She said so! antigop Oct 2015 #48
Bernie IS a once in a generation opportunity. cpompilo Oct 2015 #35
Exactly and "coward" is an apt term. Great post. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #37
LOVE that poster idea. zentrum Oct 2015 #42
YES! K&R! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #49
K&R waldo.c Oct 2015 #50
K&R CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #51
+ 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #52
Love it....apart from the Boomer Bashing Armstead Oct 2015 #55
I Didn't Like It NonMetro Oct 2015 #58
In his defense, since he's a very close friend of mine..... beerandjesus Oct 2015 #59
I just turned 65. I totally "got" the OP, and it's sooo SPOT ON. 2banon Oct 2015 #74
K & R bench scientist Oct 2015 #56
Your Friend Did Exactly What Other Self Absorbed People Do: NonMetro Oct 2015 #57
I actually just addressed this in a different post addressed to someone else... beerandjesus Oct 2015 #60
OK, Let's See If We Understand This Correctly: NonMetro Oct 2015 #89
Actually, yeah, pretty much. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #90
Nor do I want to fight with you NonMetro Oct 2015 #91
Bernie!! AzDar Oct 2015 #61
K&R Paka Oct 2015 #63
If not now, when? If not Bernie, who? wilsonbooks Oct 2015 #64
Awesome post. Thanks! nt mhatrw Oct 2015 #66
K&R emsimon33 Oct 2015 #67
Happy to be the 200th rec. mnhtnbb Oct 2015 #69
Sounds like what most people say after they get to know Bernie. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #71
I'm sure glad that most Democrats Progressive dog Oct 2015 #72
C'mon, I thought that analogy about accepting Jesus on your death bed was hilarious! beerandjesus Oct 2015 #78
This guy is pretty astute. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #76
He's a sharp guy, and we've been close friends for the better part of 20 years. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #80
You buried the lede: "ANY DEMOCRAT WHO DOES NOT SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS IS A COWARD" leftupnorth Oct 2015 #77
Wow look at all of you who recced this post calling all of us who don't support hrmjustin Oct 2015 #79
I think you may have missed the point. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #81
No i can see right through this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #82
Then you probably didn't read the OP. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #83
Why did you capitalize the coward remark? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #84
I didn't. I copied and pasted it as I received it. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #85
Whatever. I am sick of seeing crap like this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #86
Wow, justin, just wow. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #92
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