2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How can thoughtful people even *consider* Hillary for President? [View all]certainot
(9,090 posts)i'll gladly vote for hillary
the 99% of the 'left' vastly underestimate what talk radio has done and can do to move politics and media to the right. there is no serious challenge to rw radio from the left's many well funded orgs. until there is a recognition and challenge, i think most people are hypocrites for expecting all their reps to be elizabeth warrens and bernie sanders and shun the rest for compromising.
it's like booing your team for losing while not noticing that the other team has ten extra players on the field.
how far can we expect our reps to stick their necks out if we let republicans take free pot shots at them all day long from 1000 coordinated radio stations.
much of the hillary criticism is basted in 20 years of doing just that. if bernie is the candidate, by continuing to ignore rw radio, the collective left will not be able to say they got his back. i gave an example of what will be coming bernie's way on radio here: Savage, on Bernie, with assassination jokes: you student-molesting anti-christian commie retrovirus
regardless of my preference for bernie i don't like the fact a lot of the hillary criticism is based in bullshit, hypocritical bullshit re 'principles', laziness, naivete, and trolling
as far as the bush nightmare, compared with what 1000 unchallenged radio stations were doing under the left's nose, the nader effect was nothing. without 10 years of the talk radio advantage bush would never have been deemed presidential material by any standard. they never would have sold us into iraq. most of the last 25 years of defeats and regression and compromise is directly related to allowing the right's think tanks to blast the country with unchallenged coordinated repetition from 100 radio stations and now people are whining about not voting for the dem if its not bernie. like the trolled dumbasses that didn't vote in 2010 because they believed the roves that obama's first two years were a failure not because of the treasonous obstruction but because he didn't want reform. fuck that.
as far as supporting bernie, the best thing i can do for bernie is convince liberals and dems that ignoring republican radio and doing nothing about it going into the next election is to continue the biggest political mistake in history, considering time we are losing on global warming.