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Leith

(7,808 posts)
33. Extremely Good Points
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, Clinton's economic policies concern me, as do her votes on the Iraq invasion. But she's not stupid: she knows why Sanders has such a following; it's because of his economic policies (and gruff, kindly, and absolutely no nonsense manner when he does not back down from a debate). She learned the lesson, but let's see how she does on the test. Don't forget that FDR was a member of the ultimate 1% tip-top club when he enacted economic reforms. I don't want to get into a debate on whether he could have done more. He did enough to make the lives of the disenfranchised poor better at the expense of his fellow country club members.

If you are talking about Matt Taibbi's excellent pieces on Bernie Sanders, it made me so angry that I could read only about 2 pages at a time (same for his reporting on the Katrina aftermath). Sanders has the right economics and the tenacity of a bulldog, but the personality that endears him to us rubs his colleagues the wrong way. If you think that Obama has had trouble with an intransigent Congress, you ain't seen nothin' yet - just send Bernie to the White House. We'll yearn for the good ol' days of the Obama Administration.

Getting back to the thread topic: both Clinton and Sanders are extraordinarily good people and candidates. Democrats, progressives, and liberals agree with the vast majority of both of them. It is just sickening that we are bickering over details that are being exaggerated into major disputes while conservatives pass the popcorn.

This is a message board on the internet. You will find vitriol on every single website on the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #1
Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #3
LOL, yeah, this site is hugely tame. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #12
And yet this site claims to have objectives such as electing Democrats, most sites do not make Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #19
Very good 'rant.' Chemisse Oct 2015 #2
Actually, these boards are very useful for learning new reasons to support/oppose a given candidate. reformist2 Oct 2015 #4
*chortle nt artislife Oct 2015 #8
Good points. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #5
The real adversaries RiverLover Oct 2015 #17
the average voters, the ones needed to win treestar Oct 2015 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Oct 2015 #31
Welcome to DU! K&R for a great beginning here nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #6
I have been following Hillary for a long time, have studied her stand on the issues, Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #7
good comments KT2000 Oct 2015 #9
21 posts in and you already Aerows Oct 2015 #10
Many of Us ARE Listening Leith Oct 2015 #11
You may not see a difference between Hillary and Bernie, and you are entitled to your opinion. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #14
I Understand Leith Oct 2015 #15
I think the disconnect is.. Kentonio Oct 2015 #28
Extremely Good Points Leith Oct 2015 #33
Like I said you are entitled to your opinion. The differences between Bernie and Hillary may liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #34
Actually, about half the country's eligible voters vote and in some States participation is much Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #22
I totally agree with you workinclasszero Oct 2015 #25
Well, I agree that the animosity but criticizing is part of discussion and debate Armstead Oct 2015 #13
Jon Stewart criticizes everyone, everyone loves him. So it is not apparently criticism itself that Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #24
It varies. Depends on the individuals involved. Armstead Oct 2015 #27
Yet another OP that claims to want unity but only calls out one candidate's supporters. cui bono Oct 2015 #16
Funny how that works, eh? Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #18
OP was just giving the example from their side treestar Oct 2015 #21
Disagreeing with Hillary = "vitriol" Maedhros Oct 2015 #30
True, the Republicans are the actual "enemy" treestar Oct 2015 #20
I have to disagree with the first part of your statement BainsBane Oct 2015 #26
Folks look for evidence that confirms their world view and disregard the rest... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #29
Yes, it's called "confirmation bias" and we are all susceptible to it. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #32
I couldn't agree more. Dem2 Oct 2015 #35
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