2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I am getting a bit tired of constant victim status for Hillary [View all]passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Because I felt the same way about Obama. I was not supporting him for President because he was black, but because he was an incredible person and I thought he was exactly what we needed as President (out of all the contenders). The fact that he is black was only a secondary factor that I was very proud of, because seeing a black man become President was historical and it made me proud of our growth on racism. But first and foremost, he qualified as President to me because of his character.
I know that Hillary supporters feel the same way about her, and most of them are proud she is a woman as a "secondary" factor. But...those of us who really don't want to see her win are not against her because she is a woman, but because of her character. And we try to point that out and her supporters accuse us of sexism and nasty attacks. Maybe some here are doing that, but most of us just don't want a person (regardless of gender or race) like her for President. Her gender has nothing to do with it. We want someone progressive for a change. We are tired of leaning ever more rightward economically, as a country. We see what it has done to our middle class and jobs and incomes and our position in the world, and we want change. We don't see that change coming from someone with Hillary's character or history.
Unfortunately, those who were against Obama were not against him because of his character, but mostly because he was black. Although now there are people (dems) who are against him because he wasn't progressive enough. I think they are over-reacting on that. I think he would have been more progressive if he hadn't been dealing with such a recalcitrant GOP. He was never as progressive as we thought he would be, based on his campaigning...that was a disappointment. But he is still a man of good character.
I was dismayed when Hillary used alleged victimization of Bernie's comment to insinuate he was sexist...that is something I expect from a weak woman, like Palin...not from someone who is supposedly strong enough to withstand opposition gracefully. But I am even more dismayed by her supporters continual accusations against Bernie supports of attacking her because she is a woman, and being sexist. If she is so strong, she can defend herself.