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In reply to the discussion: It's not a flip-flop. Seriously, let it go. [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)68. There has been a finding. It isn't a legal finding.
Hence the FBI investigation, which will lead to a legal finding (either "no there wasn't" from the FBI, or "yes there was" via something like a trial).
Many here have explained to you what the FBI is really doing here, which is to resolve a dispute between federal agencies about what should be declared classified after the fact for purposes of disclosure in response to PRA requests to the State Department stamina from the Benghazi investigation.
No, that's what lead to the investigation.
The DNI IG is claiming the information was classified at the time. State disagrees.
The only after-the-fact aspect is the information is being marked classified after-the-fact. But information is classified whether or not it is properly marked. This is repeatedly drilled into people who are granted access to classified information - that unmarked information can be classified.
An example:
Someone without a clearance sends Clinton an email saying "John Smith is a CIA spy!". It's not marked, because the guy doesn't have a clearance. It's still classified TS/SCI/HUMINT even though it is unmarked. To follow "the rules", Clinton would have to report the email to the relevant security people and ensure the email is properly deleted from her server and any clients.
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Its actually HRC supporters twisting his words. They have no shame, just like republicans.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Nov 2015
#41
There was no information on Clinton's server marked classified at the time it was on the server
upaloopa
Nov 2015
#32
His statements are about the FBI investigation. There is no congressional investigation
jeff47
Nov 2015
#53
You ARE NOT disappointed - you are giddy! Don't lie, because we see right through it.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Nov 2015
#39
Heck, I don't know. Projection on my part? I get off work now - have a great day!!
Elmer S. E. Dump
Nov 2015
#56
Personal accounts was common practice, but so far classified in those accounts is new.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#26
If he had added "Let's wait for the FBI and Congress to finish their investigations"
Nye Bevan
Nov 2015
#9
I think it actually is a flip-flop. But it's not one that will do much damage on a national level.
NurseJackie
Nov 2015
#14
Here you go just minutes after the debates. What he had to say at 11:05 pm EST that night
Snotcicles
Nov 2015
#87
Well, team Clinton has spent so much time lying about the emails, it's an easy mistake to make.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#21
Yes, when I said "State" I was referring to later statements by State's spokespeople. (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2015
#113
Some folks made that suggestion after the debate. I didn't think they were right at the time.
stevenleser
Nov 2015
#93
Nothing there to fix. DU is so full of suspicion about any comments they fear,
Ford_Prefect
Nov 2015
#35
All you will get for your efforts is more bullshit, propaganda, and obfuscation.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Nov 2015
#38
I knew Sanders was talking about the media, but HRC cleverly grabbed the chance...
polichick
Nov 2015
#46
Which part of "clever, opportunistic and shameless" do you have a problem with...
polichick
Nov 2015
#60
There has been no finding the Hillary's email contained classified information.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#65
It is not a "new mantra." I am simply stating facts that have been out there for months.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#91
You started with there's no FBI investigation at all, later admitted this was false.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#96
He goes from not wanting to hear about it to calling it a valid investigation.
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#63