2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

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10. Last time I tried to explain it I was insulted...

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:53 PM

Nov 2015

Whether or not a person likes the Clintons they have been involved in the Latino and African American communities for over forty years since they were field organizers for George McGovern in south Texas registering Mexicans to vote... Both Bill and Hill have lifelong confidantes and advisers from both the Latino and African American communities. They aren't window dressing.

Also, members of that group remember the good economic times of the Clinton prosperity of the 90s.

I will give you an analogy...Two friends ask you to loan them five hundred bucks. You know one of them for three months...You know the other one for twenty years...Who gets the loan?

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It's very white': Las Vegas audience exposes Bernie Sanders' Latino problem [View all] misterhighwasted Nov 2015 OP

When will white people learn.... daleanime Nov 2015 #1

exactly retrowire Nov 2015 #27

The problem comes when we try to tell minorities that we know best mythology Nov 2015 #106

Look at the two posts above you. You are absolutely right, but I doubt you will be heard by those Squinch Nov 2015 #111

I would think it's more along the lines of those who look only for evil... daleanime Nov 2015 #112

Read the post I was responding to again. Squinch Nov 2015 #116

I think the mariachi band is part of the problem as well. askew Nov 2015 #2

I have to say that really stuck out BainsBane Nov 2015 #15

Apparently Hillary did it too askew Nov 2015 #33

Did it make your skin crawl when Hillary had a Mariachi band in Nevada? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #55

It might have BainsBane Nov 2015 #105

Oh, I'll go and see a mariarchi band for any reason. HRC had a women's mariarchi band from LA. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #119

Was it a problem when Hillary did it? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #54

Bingo! SoapBox Nov 2015 #96

It's never a problem if it's done by Hillary Autumn Nov 2015 #113

Here in California we like Mariachis, & with our enormous Latino population it would seem .... Hekate Nov 2015 #71

Here in Arizona, too. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #76

So the real problem is not the entertainment, but the low/no draw of the intended audience. Hekate Nov 2015 #89

I suspect that is accurate. ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #95

Loved 'em in TX, thrilled to see them in WA, too. Great music, it just feels good! n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #120

I said that on DU and got a hide. We are supposed to pretend not to notice. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

Why did you get a hide for pointing out how certain groups are voting? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #4

Because I said 'white ass crowds'. bravenak Nov 2015 #5

Last time I tried to explain it I was insulted... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #10

Twenty years, yo! bravenak Nov 2015 #12

I am not saying he is a good or bad guy...I will leave that judgment to others... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #14

We need to know what to expect. bravenak Nov 2015 #18

I don't understand why that is so hard for some folks to understand. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #21

My Good do they. bravenak Nov 2015 #23

Two very different "Hills" for anyone who know the SFV. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #26

Very different Hills. He had moved back to his mom's house. bravenak Nov 2015 #29

West Hills is fifteen minutes from where I live by bus. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #34

Hell yeah i been there! bravenak Nov 2015 #38

Folks knew the Bushes for decades when GW was elected AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #40

Good question... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #41

How the hell did Barack Obama get elected then? nt valerief Nov 2015 #32

He has always been a part of the black community. He organizes people.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #35

To expand the analogy a bit farther ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #84

Well DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #101

Seems you know a little bit about history ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #104

Anarchy is a right wing revolution and not voting is a vote for the status quo... freshwest Nov 2015 #134

Their is a diffrence between pointing things out... Lancero Nov 2015 #39

You do not need to worry about my hides for me and the reasons why. bravenak Nov 2015 #42

Facts aren't insulting, but phrasing is. Lancero Nov 2015 #44

I do not need you to explain the jury system. Skinner explained it to me HIMSELF. bravenak Nov 2015 #47

I'm not explaining the jury system, I'm explaining on how I'd vote... Lancero Nov 2015 #50

Don't need you to explain that either. bravenak Nov 2015 #51

Fair enough Lancero Nov 2015 #52

I am White and it doesn't insult me... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #59

I'm white too, and it doesnt insult me either, jack_krass Nov 2015 #118

Then yes you are.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #138

Just try saying you were snowblinded. I sure was when I first moved up here. freshwest Nov 2015 #123

They might have a heart attack if I said that!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #125

And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout... freshwest Nov 2015 #129

Hee hee! I love being EVIL. bravenak Nov 2015 #135

LOL at your sig line! Brave! But love mariarchi music. Get any in AK? n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #121

No real mariachi. bravenak Nov 2015 #122

Come to my casa and I'll cook you some of the real stuff! Yum! n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #124

Yuuuuuummmm!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #126

And chili verde and chili rellenos! And real tamales! n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #132

Kick & recommended for exposure. William769 Nov 2015 #6

kick n/t cosmicone Nov 2015 #7

Interesting ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #8

KnR sheshe2 Nov 2015 #9

Yet Hillary's audiences are just as white, or whiter AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #11

Like the one BLM interrupted? Oh. No. They were all black. bravenak Nov 2015 #13

Hillary spoke to blacks once? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #16

She does it all the time. When will Bernie give it a try, do you think? bravenak Nov 2015 #17

So she did it once, good for her! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #19

I said all the time. He NEVER DOES. Never. Never ever. No wonder we are not in his crowds. bravenak Nov 2015 #20

So run with corporate then, it's been so good to POC. AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #22

Ooooooh!! bravenak Nov 2015 #24

"I said all the time. He NEVER DOES. Never. Never ever" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #31

Those are not his supporters. Captive audience. Lolol! bravenak Nov 2015 #53

"He never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever!!1!! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #56

Have a Happy Hillary Day! bravenak Nov 2015 #57

Yet consistently voted in favor of good legislation... Fearless Nov 2015 #25

That is unadulterated horse manure Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #128

So a college? NOT IMPRESSED. Show him on skid row at a soup kitchen then maybe. bravenak Nov 2015 #130

Never satisfied, are you? Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #131

Why the hell should I be? bravenak Nov 2015 #133

You seem to be satisfied with Hillary Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #140

Which Hillary, not Bill policies harm them? randys1 Nov 2015 #28

Banking AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #36

Positions? randys1 Nov 2015 #37

It's impossible to put a finger on her positions AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #43

So none. I have no illusions of her being the saviour to the middle class that I know Bernie randys1 Nov 2015 #45

Bernie just wants to get the country back on track AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #46

When it comes to bankers and Wall street, I think you are right. randys1 Nov 2015 #48

If the banks don't get dealt with, the economy will collapse again AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #49

Why would we want it to change.....its getting better all the time... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #60

The derivatives market is still unregulated AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #61

So? We are still on a good path right now.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #62

"So?" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #64

Yes so....do you know she WON'T do anything about it? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #65

Because they have paid her millions of dollars in fees AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #66

And VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #68

They have paid her millions in fees AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #74

They have? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #78

To HER for speeches AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #80

that she gives to THEM for charity! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82

Her personal fortune is $45 Million AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #83

We'll see it no matter which Democrat is elected. And I'll defend BS, HRC or O'M from the RW. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #136

Won't win over any supporters with that flashing ad. It gives me brain cramp every time I scroll by. Hekate Nov 2015 #90

Inducing a bout of Photosensitive epilepsy (PSE)? I know friends who have it and I'm sensitive. freshwest Nov 2015 #137

The 2001 bankruptcy bill jfern Nov 2015 #73

ONE point doesn't create a trend.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #79

And Hillary does have a long, impressive, entire career Control-Z Nov 2015 #108

At one time she was very concerned about hardworking nc4bo Nov 2015 #77

She STILL does.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #81

Dang.....dusty! nc4bo Nov 2015 #85

What are you talking about? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #86

I wasn't referring to her finances.....or $$ at all. nc4bo Nov 2015 #87

and what evidence do you have of that? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #88

. nc4bo Nov 2015 #91

You didn't answer the question... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #92

Guess you don't read the Sanders vs Clinton threads? nc4bo Nov 2015 #93

Yes I have.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #94

I have no need. nc4bo Nov 2015 #98

You mean you have no ability.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #99

kicking... retrowire Nov 2015 #30

Do you have a link to the video where he let them take the stage? Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #58

really? retrowire Nov 2015 #63

I was just asking where he let them take the stage at one of his events. Didn't mean to offend. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #67

that is the event im speaking of retrowire Nov 2015 #70

I think bernie just shuffled off to his next event. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #69

I'm actually of the impression Sanders did ok at the event the poster was mentioning. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #72

Latinos need to back the candidate who gives them what they deserve: MisterP Nov 2015 #75

I think they'd also appreciate being acknowleged as voters in 2016 misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #102

I don't really see this as a problem at the moment. Xyzse Nov 2015 #97

"At the moment, I feel like this is a manufactured crisis." HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #100

Well, I do tend to go for understating things. Xyzse Nov 2015 #141

advantage Hillary mhatrw Nov 2015 #103

Good for that one girl. i hope she took her role in organizing serious. She was with the right group misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #107

Yay! Racial mud! Prism Nov 2015 #109

From the quoted concern trolls to the authors to the editors to the publishers ... nt mhatrw Nov 2015 #110

Bullshit. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #114

I call bullshit on this. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #115

Gracias, mister! Cha Nov 2015 #117

Half of GD:P is threads about Hillary Clinton, the other half threads about Sen. Sanders' Supporters Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #127

His opposition to a pathway to citizenship in'07... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #139