The main reason, IMO, that Bernie fans are failing to draw people over to their side.

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70. Recant

Dan, Hillary's record isn't as strong as Bernie's on environmental issues. I'll cite you both KXL and TPP right now.
Also, did you stop and think that that Board Chairwoman Carol Browner, served as Environmental Protection Agency administrator under President Bill Clinton? That's how politics works. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

Let's see what the president of Earth Justice, who endorsed Bernie, has to say about the LCV endorsement.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/11/09/3720490/lcv-endorses-hillary/


I just showed you evidence of people crossing over to vote for Bernie. Would you like more?

Why Surprising Numbers of Republicans Have Been Voting for Bernie Sanders in Vermont
If Sanders ends up being the Democratic nominee for president, his GOP opponent is going to have a hard time beating him.
And as NPR's "Morning Edition" found out last year, some of Bernie's biggest fans are in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom, the poorest and most conservative part of the state.

Sorry Dan but the facts are Bernie is getting conservative support. I don't know what else to tell you but it is what it is and to go ahead and just turn a blind eye to it says a lot.

--Corporatist! Bankster! Oligarch!
Yes, I think it's funny the way Bernie supporters throw around those words. I know that y'all are very skilled at "Six Degrees of Hillary Clinton", but outside the Bernie bubble, people recognize that she's a progressive on the issues. Hence all the endorsements from unions and LCV and her big lead among Democrats.

No Dan it isn't funny at all and she IS NOT progressive on the issues at all. She's a reactionary faux progressive who changes her views depending on how the wind is blowing. Can you show us where Bernie changed his views in the last 20 years? Go for it. Meanwhile, just a few days ago, Hillary changed her views on pot. What's next? Upping her stance to $15/hr?

Sorry Dan but her biggest donors are CEOs of the biggest companies in America. It is what it is. If you think big endorsements are a thing, go ask the people of the unions what they think and you'll see that while the entity supports Hillary, the people who make up these said entities, support Bernie. The people matter MORE than the organization much as policy matters OVER party.
You're being made a Mark by buying into the whole image rebrand thing. It's marketing and advertising 101 and you're being manipulated. You may not like that but the truth is, progressives don't make remarks about bombing Iran or support a wage which isn't a living wage. Nor are they against single payer. Have you read her stances on Social Security? Go read her record on it http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Social_Security.htm As far as union support goes, that doesn't mean someone is a progressive, it means someone is a Democrat.

--Bernie was in favor of X before Hillary was.
Some people care about that, but most don't, because the understand that all humans change their minds on things over time and make mistakes. More importantly, people who will never ever vote for someone who voted for the IWR are already not supporting Hillary. Pounding this point over and over won't change anything.

Wrong. Most do care about it and that has a direct impact on how people perceive a candidate. As I cited, Hillary is underwater with how she is seen in terms of being trustworthy and if people like her. That bodes bad in a general because it equates to people just saying "meh" and NOT voting. Obama brought the fire, Hillary brings well, one that's been put out. In the Dem bubble she has some fire for sure but outside that small bubble, nope. Mark my words right now, bookmark my post. IF she is the candidate and that's a big IF right now a year out, the general will be a nail biter and it's possible Dems lose it. Mark my words as I said.

--Bernie polls well in GE matchups
That billboard ad was an attack against Hillary, trying to tie her to the left wing policies of Bernie. If you really think the GOP is going after Bernie the same as Hillary, you need to wake up. During the GOP debates they almost exclusively attack Hillary. During the Dem debates they ran that Benghazi ad. Hillary is the one they are afraid of, and she's the one they are attacking. And she's still standing strong. If somehow Bernie comes out with the nomination, they will pummel him into the ground.

No Dan that was an attack ad on BOTH candidates. You said Bernie isn't being attacked and I clearly showed you he most certainly is. Now only that BUT he's being attacked by Dems too, specifically Clinton surrogates.
Let's take a look and see what conservative pundits are saying about Bernie shall we? Let's look at Red State http://www.redstate.com/search/Bernie+sanders and The Daily Caller https://goo.gl/Pdeg3Y
What's funny though is you cite how often cons attack Hillary but yet I'm guessing you think IF she's elected things will get done? Derp.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/25/claire-mccaskill-bernie-sanders_n_7662124.html

--Bernie's going to usher in a political revolution that turns both chambers of congress blue.
It's no surprise that you have libertarian leanings. However, libertarians are a small part of the GOP, and a small part of the population. They are also crazy.

Next time leave out all the images. It clutters the conversation.

No. Images are used to illustrate my point and back up facts. I have libertarian leanings? You misconstrue my point. It's not "Libertarian leanings", it's called "common interests". No matter WHICH candidate you support, we all agree on certain issues. Greens, Dems, JP'ers, Libertarains, all agree that nobody should be able to be fired because they are black. See what I mean?
True Libertarains Dan aren't members of the GOP, they're members of the Libertarian party and I'm sorry but my girlfriend isn't crazy and I take deep offense to that remark.

Maybe you should study the other sides of the coin and actually learn. Knowledge is power after all.