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Catherina

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71. and an insult to the workers who are out in force today demaning Bernie's $15

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Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:12 PM

Nov 2015

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Why Hillary Clinton's $12 Minimum Wage is INSUFFICIENT [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

The difference between the 2 after taxes... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #1

$30/week. That a nice chuck of change to the working poor. nt Autumn Nov 2015 #2

$1500 a year. Not much if you have money but a lot if you don't. jalan48 Nov 2015 #66

How many hours a week are you basing this on? Segami Nov 2015 #3

Yeah, that's a good point. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #5

No. More like $30/week. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #7

In what world would somebody making minimum wage pay 66% in taxes. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #9

We're not talking about current min wage, we're... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #11

People working full time and earning $7.25, or $12.00, or $15.00 are all in the same 15% tax bracket Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #15

Don't forget state taxes, and... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #19

And? Likely still in the same bracket for your state and still with far more that $30.00 in your Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #24

I agree wages need to be raised... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #27

So Clinton has a time machine? jeff47 Nov 2015 #46

Roflmao! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #65

Some people work 2 and 3 jobs. And even $30 a week is significant to someone living hand to mouth. merrily Nov 2015 #28

Even then HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #16

His numbers are off Massacure Nov 2015 #21

You're only looking at federal taxes... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #25

Thanks for doing out the math. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #37

Not surprised. Your model is based on $3 an hour for a 40 hour week. Many work 80 hour weeks. merrily Nov 2015 #50

The tax is based on your full paycheck, but... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #22

Hey look! You're making shit up again! jeff47 Nov 2015 #45

Right, now add state taxes on top of that. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #47

Show me a state that has a bracket between $24k and $30k. jeff47 Nov 2015 #49

Why 66%? Now you're forgetting the federal taxes. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #58

No, I'm not. Both incomes are in the same federal tax bracket. jeff47 Nov 2015 #60

It's total BS. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #69

I guess you would not complain about taking a $3/hr pay cut since its just not that much? uppityperson Nov 2015 #70

You do know that tax brackets are marginal right? taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #63

Even such rough estimates.... Segami Nov 2015 #23

Yes, before federal and state taxes. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #30

What exactly is your point? Segami Nov 2015 #33

I estimated based on 0 deductions with fed and state tax included. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #40

40. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #6

40??... Segami Nov 2015 #8

Tax bracket on $15/hr is different from $8/hr. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #13

We're NOT talking about $8/hr. Segami Nov 2015 #17

Your full paycheck gets taxed, not just... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #20

You still have NOT explained how you got to $30 week difference. Segami Nov 2015 #26

Depends on deductions. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #35

LOL! Segami Nov 2015 #41

What? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #42

LOL! Now you move the goal posts Segami Nov 2015 #48

Or you can just do the math yourself. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #52

NO. You still haven't shown Segami Nov 2015 #57

Give up. You're wasting your time with this guy/gal. pangaia Nov 2015 #36

You give up. We're discussing the issues. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #43

ooppsie pangaia Nov 2015 #44

No, at the moment you're lying about tax rates. jeff47 Nov 2015 #53

No, it isn't. Both are in the 15% bracket at 40 hr/week. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #51

We need a long term solution though and just raising the minimum wage is only a short term one cstanleytech Nov 2015 #64

$120/mo HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #4

True, but... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #10

Thanks angrychair Nov 2015 #67

After the election she'll probably "forget" about it anyway. NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #12

There are two things people should keep in mind Massacure Nov 2015 #14

Sanders us "proposing" $15 by 2020. What's date for $12? Hoyt Nov 2015 #18

They could both be saying the same thing, I dont know, but you would never randys1 Nov 2015 #29

Absolutely. We're not going to get this "Income disparity" thing corrected by doing some mealy-mouth BlueJazz Nov 2015 #38

Capitalism didnt work. Land ownership is stupid. Time to start over. randys1 Nov 2015 #39

THIS! pinebox Nov 2015 #31

$12 can pass in Congress, $15 is DOA n/t Lil Missy Nov 2015 #32

So you ask for $15 and get $12. jeff47 Nov 2015 #54

What can you get? yallerdawg Nov 2015 #34

You don't get $12 by asking for $12. jeff47 Nov 2015 #55

Ask who? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #59

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #61

triangulating as usual, just like on marijuana Doctor_J Nov 2015 #56

Like a lot of rich people, she's a cheapskate. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #62

Exactly when did Thespian2 Nov 2015 #68

and an insult to the workers who are out in force today demaning Bernie's $15 Catherina Nov 2015 #71