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BainsBane

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12. Last night it sounded to me like both Sanders and O'Malley were
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:39 PM
Nov 2015

trying to out hawk Hillary. I thought she came off as more circumspect in regard to US military intervention against ISIS.

I don't think think that is a military conflict that can be avoided. They all said they would pursue it. The difference was in the role the US would play, whether leading or backup.

Clinton's point that the enemy is not radical Islam is an important one. Bernie is wrong that it doesn't matter. Clinton knows from her experience as a diplomat that the language we use in describing these situations is enormously important. She was clear the threat is from those who act violently, not the ideology/religion. The difference is crucial.

She also has a more informed and nuanced view of the situation. For example, Bernie's comment that the Mooselims (sorry, his pronunciation jumped out at me) aren't doing their part was a broad brushed statement that doesn't apply to every Muslim nation, as Clinton pointed out.

I do believe Bernie did better in talking about the Iraq War and the the destabilization that it created. While Clinton is right that there are a myriad of factors that led to the rise of ISIS, she underestimated our role.

Six Questions cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1
Don't you get tired of posting this same thread BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #13
No cantbeserious Nov 2015 #15
Well, you now have the dubious BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #17
The Feeling Is Mutually Dubious Of Distinction cantbeserious Nov 2015 #19
Supporting Obama is one of her strengths. I'm sure her opponents would like nothing better upaloopa Nov 2015 #2
My reaction too! eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #14
Underestimated ISIS? What if that is true, would you have had him send TROOPS? randys1 Nov 2015 #3
I agree with her prospective policies Dem2 Nov 2015 #4
Good point, so the asshole cons have to be forced to say "Yes, I will send your son to die in Syria" randys1 Nov 2015 #5
They will happily stir up their angry base into sending their own children to die. Dem2 Nov 2015 #7
Not in the primary BainsBane Nov 2015 #6
So what does not underestimating the murderers mean? randys1 Nov 2015 #8
That's a reference to the Obama administration's public statements about 18 months ago BainsBane Nov 2015 #9
I know but my fear is what will be proposed to respond to recent events. randys1 Nov 2015 #10
Last night it sounded to me like both Sanders and O'Malley were BainsBane Nov 2015 #12
That was Hillary's POV when she pressed for regime changes in Libya and Syria leveymg Nov 2015 #20
I disagree--and I get the impression that some of SLATE's writers would prefer a GOP POTUS. MADem Nov 2015 #11
Why on earth should she do that? BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #16
No way! leftofcool Nov 2015 #18
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