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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. No one should care who wins in Iowa
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015
First of all, the precinct caucuses (what passes for the Iowa primary) are totally non representative - only about 10% to 12% of the registered voters attend. These folks are usually the most motivated voters because caucus meetings can last up to 3 hours and are full of discussions and politicking. No way is this small percentage of Iowa Democratic voters representative of the whole.

Second, the votes for the candidates in the precincts has no effect on the election of Iowa's delegates to the National Democratic convention. In each precinct caucus, following the vote for the candidates (which is what you will see reported that evening on the news), there is a vote to determine who will be the delegate who will represent the represent the precinct in the county caucus to be held later on. At the each of the county caucuses the precinct delegates elect a delegate to represent the county at their district caucus which is held still later. At the each of the District caucuses the county delegates elect a delegate to represent the district at the Iowa State Democratic Convention which is held still later. The the district delegates at the state convention then elect the delegates to the National Democratic Convention. The whole process will not be completed until sometimes in July.

Note, the voting for the actual candidates at the 99 precinct caucuses to be held February 1st, and which will cumulatively determine the "winner" in Iowa, is totally meaningless in the determination of Iowa's eventual delegates to the National Democratic Convention. The entire caucus system should be abolished and replaced with a simple vote, but it isn't going to happen. This is as close to the smoke filled back rooms in which major party nominees used to be picked and I guess the officials of both parties in Iowa like it that way.

So why should anyone care who wins the evening of February 1st in Iowa. That vote is both no representative and meaningless.
Encouraging for Bernie ram2008 Nov 2015 #1
excellent news for bernie restorefreedom Nov 2015 #2
What's going on? Jarqui Nov 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #5
Quinnipac had her at +11 last month, so they're showing a stable trend Godhumor Nov 2015 #6
Damn you autocorrect... SidDithers Nov 2015 #16
Pfft n/t Godhumor Nov 2015 #24
Nothing shocking but encouraging for Sanders Jarqui Nov 2015 #18
No, you really can't read into it that way Godhumor Nov 2015 #23
Before and after Biden withdrawl? Jarqui Nov 2015 #27
Think you're misreading Godhumor Nov 2015 #35
Biden and Webb were in the original poll Jarqui Nov 2015 #39
No, they didn't Godhumor Nov 2015 #43
Obama was behind by 10, at this point... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #4
Processes like Iowa give Bernie his best opportunities to win primaries CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #7
No he wasn't behind by ten. The race was essentially tied Godhumor Nov 2015 #8
AP/Pew poll released 8 years ago today showed Clinton beating Obama by 26% nationally, 19% in New Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #12
And I didn't include it because it polled beginning 11/3 Godhumor Nov 2015 #19
Right .... Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #25
Wrong! Those were polls taken a month before the 2008 Iowa caucuses. CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #13
No one should care who wins in Iowa CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #9
Check Iowa's track record on picking the eventual Dem nominee emulatorloo Nov 2015 #14
I did check Iowa's track record and ...... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #49
90 percent track record:Iowa Dem caucus winners win the Democratic nomination CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #56
Wrong - you didn't read the article, did you? CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #59
I think Sanders and Clinton should both care very much about who wins Iowa Jarqui Nov 2015 #26
One other thing Jarqui Nov 2015 #32
...and it also blows her "I'm inevitable; Bernie is unelectable" meme... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #41
Inevitable? Jarqui Nov 2015 #48
I agree that she is not "inevitable"... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #50
If she wins, I'll definitely support her and try to help Jarqui Nov 2015 #53
boot on bernie's throat? Robbins Nov 2015 #47
Check out the polls for the 12 Super Tuesday states... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #51
"So Hillary has some cushion, Bernie does not" Jarqui Nov 2015 #54
Iowa matters only to the extent that people sill believe it matters CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #57
I think that would be much more accurately restated with: Jarqui Nov 2015 #60
You mean when the mainstream media.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #65
?? "The Iowa caucuses are Dec. 1st followed by the New Hampshire primary on Dec. 8th." ?? Jarqui Nov 2015 #66
Yep, sorry, but the point is the same. (n/t) CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #68
You know jack squat about the Iowa caucuses! CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #31
Your participation does not make the caucus process a good one CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #46
Your blog post is interesting, but invalid... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #58
So you admit that the entire process.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #61
The Iowa caucuses had a 39.57% participation rate, the last time CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #64
You completely avoided my main point CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #67
Like CBS Iowa poll it shows Bernie is still in the game Robbins Nov 2015 #10
It doesn't matter who wins in Iowa CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #11
If you support bernie Robbins Nov 2015 #22
Yes, gave Obama the mojo. But Sanders does not have the southern strategy to continues the mojo riversedge Nov 2015 #37
Actually, Iowans don't give a shit about "beauty"... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #36
Regardless of who leads or who wins, I am definitely disparaging your caucuses CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #40
Looks very good for Bernie. Thanks for posting! emulatorloo Nov 2015 #15
Looks like it's in line with the last couple of polls out of Iowa firebrand80 Nov 2015 #17
A little funny that Sanders only real shot is a state that doesn't represent the country.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #20
What are you talking about? reformist2 Nov 2015 #28
It's kind of too obvious to explain and I'm certian you get it. Thanks for the reply. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #30
just the typical shitting on anything ibegurpard Nov 2015 #44
The Iowa Causes are the epitome of democracy... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #42
I think the article should be titled: Bernie closing on Hillary in Iowa. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #21
Huh?? DCBob Nov 2015 #29
The trend in the news is to claim Bernie is far behind Hillary around 30% and up. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #33
You suggested the article title should be changed.. DCBob Nov 2015 #34
No offense intended, Just another way to report the same information. Yes I support Bernie, ;) Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #63
I only see this as good news for Hillary Clinton. DCBob Nov 2015 #38
Some reality here... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #45
Some additional reality... DCBob Nov 2015 #62
Leading by 9 is not a horse race. He hasn't lead Nor pulled within 2-3 points FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #52
RealClearPolitics composite kenn3d Nov 2015 #55
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