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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
46. Your participation does not make the caucus process a good one
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

First of all I know enough about the Iowa caucuses to write this article:

Why We Shouldn’t Give a Damn Who Wins the Iowa Caucuses

You might want to note that I wrote it in early September, long before anyone cared who was ahead in Iowa so I definitely wasn't attempting to support one candidate or the other. I was simply pointing out that the Iowa caucus process sucks.

Second you haven't touched my two main arguments about the Iowa caucuses:

1. The caucus process is non representative - state wide only 10% to 12% of registered Democratic voters attend. Something is wrong with a process where only a tiny percentage of those eligible bother to attend. Your experience based on one precinct caucus does not not alter the facts about participation statewide.

2. The vote for the candidates in the precinct caucuses is not part of the process by which Iowa chooses its delegates to the Democratic Nation Convention. The only part of the precinct process which has any affect on the selection Iowa delegates to the National Democratic Convention is the selection of the precinct delegates to the county caucuses and those are totally separate votes from the votes for candidates. Now that's my definition of a "beauty contest". Again, you will have trouble arguing with the facts.

Just because you like the caucus process doesn't make it a good one.

Encouraging for Bernie ram2008 Nov 2015 #1
excellent news for bernie restorefreedom Nov 2015 #2
What's going on? Jarqui Nov 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #5
Quinnipac had her at +11 last month, so they're showing a stable trend Godhumor Nov 2015 #6
Damn you autocorrect... SidDithers Nov 2015 #16
Pfft n/t Godhumor Nov 2015 #24
Nothing shocking but encouraging for Sanders Jarqui Nov 2015 #18
No, you really can't read into it that way Godhumor Nov 2015 #23
Before and after Biden withdrawl? Jarqui Nov 2015 #27
Think you're misreading Godhumor Nov 2015 #35
Biden and Webb were in the original poll Jarqui Nov 2015 #39
No, they didn't Godhumor Nov 2015 #43
Obama was behind by 10, at this point... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #4
Processes like Iowa give Bernie his best opportunities to win primaries CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #7
No he wasn't behind by ten. The race was essentially tied Godhumor Nov 2015 #8
AP/Pew poll released 8 years ago today showed Clinton beating Obama by 26% nationally, 19% in New Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #12
And I didn't include it because it polled beginning 11/3 Godhumor Nov 2015 #19
Right .... Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #25
Wrong! Those were polls taken a month before the 2008 Iowa caucuses. CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #13
No one should care who wins in Iowa CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #9
Check Iowa's track record on picking the eventual Dem nominee emulatorloo Nov 2015 #14
I did check Iowa's track record and ...... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #49
90 percent track record:Iowa Dem caucus winners win the Democratic nomination CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #56
Wrong - you didn't read the article, did you? CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #59
I think Sanders and Clinton should both care very much about who wins Iowa Jarqui Nov 2015 #26
One other thing Jarqui Nov 2015 #32
...and it also blows her "I'm inevitable; Bernie is unelectable" meme... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #41
Inevitable? Jarqui Nov 2015 #48
I agree that she is not "inevitable"... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #50
If she wins, I'll definitely support her and try to help Jarqui Nov 2015 #53
boot on bernie's throat? Robbins Nov 2015 #47
Check out the polls for the 12 Super Tuesday states... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #51
"So Hillary has some cushion, Bernie does not" Jarqui Nov 2015 #54
Iowa matters only to the extent that people sill believe it matters CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #57
I think that would be much more accurately restated with: Jarqui Nov 2015 #60
You mean when the mainstream media.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #65
?? "The Iowa caucuses are Dec. 1st followed by the New Hampshire primary on Dec. 8th." ?? Jarqui Nov 2015 #66
Yep, sorry, but the point is the same. (n/t) CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #68
You know jack squat about the Iowa caucuses! CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #31
Your participation does not make the caucus process a good one CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #46
Your blog post is interesting, but invalid... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #58
So you admit that the entire process.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #61
The Iowa caucuses had a 39.57% participation rate, the last time CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #64
You completely avoided my main point CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #67
Like CBS Iowa poll it shows Bernie is still in the game Robbins Nov 2015 #10
It doesn't matter who wins in Iowa CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #11
If you support bernie Robbins Nov 2015 #22
Yes, gave Obama the mojo. But Sanders does not have the southern strategy to continues the mojo riversedge Nov 2015 #37
Actually, Iowans don't give a shit about "beauty"... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #36
Regardless of who leads or who wins, I am definitely disparaging your caucuses CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #40
Looks very good for Bernie. Thanks for posting! emulatorloo Nov 2015 #15
Looks like it's in line with the last couple of polls out of Iowa firebrand80 Nov 2015 #17
A little funny that Sanders only real shot is a state that doesn't represent the country.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #20
What are you talking about? reformist2 Nov 2015 #28
It's kind of too obvious to explain and I'm certian you get it. Thanks for the reply. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #30
just the typical shitting on anything ibegurpard Nov 2015 #44
The Iowa Causes are the epitome of democracy... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #42
I think the article should be titled: Bernie closing on Hillary in Iowa. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #21
Huh?? DCBob Nov 2015 #29
The trend in the news is to claim Bernie is far behind Hillary around 30% and up. Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #33
You suggested the article title should be changed.. DCBob Nov 2015 #34
No offense intended, Just another way to report the same information. Yes I support Bernie, ;) Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #63
I only see this as good news for Hillary Clinton. DCBob Nov 2015 #38
Some reality here... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #45
Some additional reality... DCBob Nov 2015 #62
Leading by 9 is not a horse race. He hasn't lead Nor pulled within 2-3 points FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #52
RealClearPolitics composite kenn3d Nov 2015 #55
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