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bvar22

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92. It has become obvious that the Clinton Wing (3rd Way)...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 03:09 PM
Nov 2015

...would prefer a Business "friendly" Republican to win instead of a real, Pro-LABOR Democrat who represents Americans who Work for a Living.
This was never MORE clear than their interference in the local Arkansas Democratic Primary of 2010.

The Arkansas Democratic Primary of 2010 was a heart breaking eye opener for the Grass Roots and Organized LABOR. We were given a Look Behind the Curtain,
and it wasn't very pretty.

[font size=3]We did EVERYTHING right in Arkansas in 2010.
We did EXACTLY what the White House asked us to do to "give the President Progressives in Congress that would work with him."[/font]

We organized and supported Democratic Lt Governor Bill Halter, the Pro-LABOR/ Pro-Health Care challenger to DINO Obstructionist Blanche Lincoln's Senate seat.
Halter was:

* Polling BETTER against the Republicans in the General,

*was popular in Arkansas in his OWN right,

*had an Up & Running Political machine,

* had a track record of winning elections (Lt. Governor)

*Had the full backing of Organized LABOR and The Grass Roots activists

*was handing Blanche her Anti-LABOR ass

...and we were WINNING!

Guess what happened.

The White House stepped in at the last minute to save Blanche's failing primary campaign with an Oval Office Endorsement of The Wicked Witch that Wrecked the Obama Agenda who was actually campaigning at that time as the one who had killed the Public Option!!!

Adding insult to injury, the White House sent Bill Clinton back to Arkansas on a state-wide Campaign/Fund Raising Tour for Blanche,
focusing on the areas with high Black Populations, and bashing Organized LABOR and "Liberals" at every opportunity.

For those of us who had worked hard to give President Obama Progressive Democrats who would work with him, it was especially difficult to watch his smiling Oval Office Endorsement for DINO Blanche Lincoln which played 24/7 on Arkansas TV the week before the runoff Primary election.

White House steps in to rescue Lincoln’s Primary Campaign in Arkansas

"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln.

* Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure.

*Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests.

*The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln — a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just don’t have the votes for.

<snip>

What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face.

Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you. Obama’s support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"

<much more>

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/


After the White House and Party Leadership had spent a truck full of money torpedoing the Primary challenge of a Pro-LABOR Democrat for Lincoln's Senate seat, the Party support for Lincoln evaporated for the General Election, and as EVERYBODY had predicted, Lincoln lost badly giving that Senate seat to a Republican virtually uncontested in the General Election.

Don't you find it "interesting" that the Party Establishment and conservative Power Brokers would spend all that money in a Democratic Primary to make sure that their candidate won, and then leave Their Winner dangling without support in the General Election?

Many Grass Roots Activists working for a better government concluded that the current Democratic Party Leadership preferred to GIVE this Senate Seat to a Big Business Republican rather than taking the risk that a Pro-LABOR Democrat might win it, and it was difficult to argue with them.
This was greatly reinforced by the Insults & Ridicule to LABOR & The Grass Roots from the White House after their Primary "victory" over Organized LABOR & the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.

When the supporters of Pro-LABOR Lt Gov Bill Halter asked the White House WHY they had chosen to throw their full support behind Lincoln at the last minute, rescuing her failing campaign, the only answer was ridicule and insults.

Ed Schultz sums up my feeling perfectly in the following clip.
http://crooksandliars.com/heather/ed-schultz-if-it-wasnt-labor-barack-obama-

So what did the White House gain by Beating Down Labor and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary?
We don't know.
The White House has never responded to our questions with an explanation, only insults.
To date, the White House has refused to answer our questions,
or issue an apology for their taunts and ridicule of Organized LABOR and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.
Not surprised Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #1
Youre Not Allowed To Challenge Hillary On DU billhicks76 Nov 2015 #34
It is so true they plot and alert swarm Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #38
BS. murielm99 Nov 2015 #45
You're Dreaming billhicks76 Nov 2015 #62
I agree. gordyfl Nov 2015 #99
Question is: SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #126
False. 840high Nov 2015 #73
Uh, Bernie supporters aren't the ones who started a rival site Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #79
HRC supporters are a small minority here but yield a lot of power. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #91
The fact that a group has the same avatar Lordquinton Nov 2015 #105
I see Bernistas all over the place murielm99 Nov 2015 #106
That's A Lie billhicks76 Nov 2015 #110
I saw it happen in reverse Lordquinton Nov 2015 #116
Even if true, so what do you do? kristopher Nov 2015 #56
I Cannot Fake It For Anyone Sorry billhicks76 Nov 2015 #65
Have it your way. kristopher Nov 2015 #68
DU Has Gone To Shit billhicks76 Nov 2015 #80
How is what he is saying personal. artislife Nov 2015 #84
He Should billhicks76 Nov 2015 #111
"But stating facts isn't personal." - - - Seriously? kristopher Nov 2015 #114
Really? That's Twisted billhicks76 Nov 2015 #115
Then you really don't understand the campaign you claim to support. kristopher Nov 2015 #117
Good Luck With Your Erroneous Analysis billhicks76 Nov 2015 #125
"Bernie clone"? kristopher Nov 2015 #127
So Clueless billhicks76 Nov 2015 #139
Kinda why I've been getting on DU less and less PatrynXX Nov 2015 #130
Well nobody is really passionate about Clinton. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #2
Nobody is really passionate about her because... PoliticalMalcontent Nov 2015 #46
+1 Jarqui Nov 2015 #104
A Zebra cannot change it's stripes. Indepatriot Nov 2015 #3
snubbing one of the largest progressive groups DJ13 Nov 2015 #4
Thats 3 she's snubbed..... Segami Nov 2015 #7
I bet she wouldnt miss DJ13 Nov 2015 #8
lol! senz Nov 2015 #20
Oh, hell no Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #39
Oh, hell no, she would not snub that soiree! Hepburn Nov 2015 #83
LOL! gordyfl Nov 2015 #102
Just curious, are these organizations popular with young people? nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #35
They don't need the progressive wing - they have terror and war. nt kristopher Nov 2015 #71
ironic, given that moveon originally was created to tell the GOP to "move on" from endlessly Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #5
YES.Beat me to it. MoveOn was started as a movement to tell the GOP to Move(the fuck)ON from all the kath Nov 2015 #12
Hmm. I've been a MoveOn member for years. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #66
Yeah, because IIRC it was formed during the whole Monica Lewinsky deal. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #76
I was one of the first hundred or so people -- Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2015 #96
She won't have to worry about energizing the base in the general. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #6
I think you could be right.She has to have progressive votes to INdemo Nov 2015 #18
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #9
A wrong move for Clinton Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #10
She does lack Common Sense in many important decisions. bvar22 Nov 2015 #89
not going does not equal snub. except to the bernie crowd of course nt msongs Nov 2015 #11
The header is MSNBC's.... Segami Nov 2015 #13
Hill will make the scheduled debates. MoveOn is welcome to tune in. oasis Nov 2015 #14
Because she calls the shots and ya have to do it her way. Right? senz Nov 2015 #21
Don't knock it. After all, nothing succeeds like success. oasis Nov 2015 #29
Governor O'Malley's first name is Martin. nt aidbo Nov 2015 #33
Thanks. nt oasis Nov 2015 #36
So you like a rigged primary where the DNC chair senz Nov 2015 #55
I'm pretty sure scores of elected Democrats had the same look at oasis Nov 2015 #57
The D.C. in-crowd "chooses" based on personal safety, senz Nov 2015 #60
Your attempt to explain away the cumulative years of public oasis Nov 2015 #63
Hey, I still like Sherrod Brown, et. al. just as much as I used to senz Nov 2015 #67
Congress Approval Rating gordyfl Nov 2015 #133
Put what weight YOU wish, individual congress folk each oasis Nov 2015 #137
Snide fits you very well. Goes along with the upper-crust sentiments. erronis Nov 2015 #100
"I've been a (d)emocrat since before you were born" oasis Nov 2015 #121
He said . . to 8 million people. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #25
They'll come to a mutual understanding with Hill's campaign, but it's no go oasis Nov 2015 #32
Do hillary supporters just have an answer for everything or are INdemo Nov 2015 #24
LOL. Really? Well it might not be personal, because we know she doesn't like rhett o rick Nov 2015 #94
In 2008 Hillary stood up and spoke on behalf of MoveOn. Beacool Nov 2015 #15
so, was endorsing Obama DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #16
This is about MoveOn, not Obama. Beacool Nov 2015 #17
Which you can't just assume will be HRC. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #86
Is this you? sufrommich Nov 2015 #87
*cough, cough* ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #90
... ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #88
She just snubbed a group with 7 million members that was created to help her husband jfern Nov 2015 #19
Yup. MoveOn won't forgive Clinton for this. Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #22
oh yeah, punishing loyalty always works out MisterP Nov 2015 #26
And now, a word from the DNC Chair DWS.... Segami Nov 2015 #28
"thought-proving questions?" Has DINO-Debbie completely lost it? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #82
Hell no. She will be greatly rewarded for her bias if HRC is elected. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #119
Darn, I thought someone would comment on how nice those teased frills look. erronis Nov 2015 #103
Yes it is n/t MissDeeds Nov 2015 #30
This group endorsed Obama in 2008. Beacool Nov 2015 #49
It makes her look like a sore loser Politicalboi Nov 2015 #59
You just admitted that it's all about "her." senz Nov 2015 #61
I'm not admitting to any such thing. Beacool Nov 2015 #70
This was her chance to debate other democrats running for the same job she is. Shouldn't she want Vincardog Nov 2015 #128
There are events going on just about every day in a dozen places.... George II Nov 2015 #23
Yes, another fundraiser Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #41
You do know that Bernie has a day job, don't you? A Simple Game Nov 2015 #124
Well, that's gratitude for you. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #27
MoveOn endorsed Obama in 2008 Kalidurga Nov 2015 #31
Today's action by her should insure that endorsement again. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #43
I'll bet she did at that azurnoir Nov 2015 #37
A lot of Progressives to risk alienating. Going to need a lot of independents to make up for it. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #42
Didn't she say.... Segami Nov 2015 #51
I believe she's evolved on the issue since that remark. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #54
Good for her. murielm99 Nov 2015 #44
She has stopped pretending to be a liberal Doctor_J Nov 2015 #47
And a few of her more demented detractors will always foam at the mouth JTFrog Nov 2015 #53
Maybe she was..... SoapBox Nov 2015 #48
What is she afraid of? SandersDem Nov 2015 #50
This really disappoints me. Raine1967 Nov 2015 #52
Great clip from Meet The Press PoliticalMalcontent Nov 2015 #58
Kick and R BeanMusical Nov 2015 #64
Pity. hay rick Nov 2015 #69
HRC Is A Pawn Of the Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Pay For Her Campaign - HRC Is Not cantbeserious Nov 2015 #72
good! because frankly, MoveOn not only lacks relevance today ericson00 Nov 2015 #74
I agree. murielm99 Nov 2015 #95
Indeed. They ran cringe-worthy ads in 2008. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #132
even tho I will vote for Hillary, the stuff in your post ericson00 Nov 2015 #135
Seems an endorsement from Moveon.org would probably hurt more than help in the GE. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #136
I can live without move on gwheezie Nov 2015 #75
And they/we will snub her at the ballot box. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #77
Life's little ironies: merrily Nov 2015 #78
Clinton: so self-centred that she is hellbent on throwing the election to the GOP. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #81
It has become obvious that the Clinton Wing (3rd Way)... bvar22 Nov 2015 #92
what did they get? ibegurpard Nov 2015 #101
I remember the Lincoln debacle. It was horrible and eye-opening as you say. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #112
And the lack of passion from the base will be her downfall! emsimon33 Nov 2015 #85
Thom Hartmann just mentioned this thread on his show. nt Snotcicles Nov 2015 #93
the optics alone are bad here stupidicus Nov 2015 #97
Her snub is going to cost her. Bubzer Nov 2015 #98
A Good Strategy gordyfl Nov 2015 #108
She's had good strategists before that have steered her wrong. I think this is one of those times. Bubzer Nov 2015 #109
Its nice to know that the Hillary Campaign feels that they can Throw Away thousands of votes. bvar22 Nov 2015 #113
Holy mackerel! Stonepounder Nov 2015 #107
You found a like-minded soul here. lovemydog Nov 2015 #120
Good heavens. A like-minded soul AND a dog lover! :-) n/t Stonepounder Nov 2015 #134
Kudos to Hillary Gman Nov 2015 #118
That's exactly what we need in a candidate! bvf Nov 2015 #122
+1 n/t ejbr Nov 2015 #123
If they're her base Gman Nov 2015 #129
Hillary paid for this election, she's entitled to it. She owns the Democratic Party we are her whereisjustice Nov 2015 #131
There are so many other groups now. Colorofchange.org eg, is having enormous influence on local sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #138
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