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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
246. He wasn't killed simply for liberating blacks.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:30 PM
Nov 2015

He was killed by the government for challenging the whole order of society.

You keep acting as if saying that MLK was killed for any other reason than his opposition to racism somehow steals somethig from PoC or exalts white leftists. It does neither. It honors Dr. King and all those who stood with him, most of whom were PoC.

The fight against racism is linked to the fight against human exploitation. If we have learned anything in the years since 1968, it is that the capitalist system needs continued grassroots racism in order to survive. A society run on profit and greed cannot be a
society in which all are treated as equal human beings and equal respect. It needs racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, antisemitism, trans phobia and even "colorism" among communities of color in order to keep us all divided and living at its mercy.

And it needs institutional racism to reinforce the grassroots racism.

Under capitalism, hatred fuels the machine.

He made some white people pretty uncomfortable when he was alive. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #1
This is an article. bravenak Nov 2015 #2
Especially when he made the link to class & economics. That's when the "assassination hammer" villager Nov 2015 #26
Exactly-he was reaching across racial lines to poor white people as well. jalan48 Nov 2015 #41
Precisely -- and *that* became the real danger. nt villager Nov 2015 #47
The real anger was in him liberating BLACKS!! bravenak Nov 2015 #55
I think he would be really pissed how for so long the non-violence has been LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #81
Cities burned when he was murdered by white supremacists. bravenak Nov 2015 #83
And the only city that did not burn was the one RFK in which spoke to the people. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #85
People should look up MLK's views on Riots. bravenak Nov 2015 #88
"Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights -- of meeting physical force with soul force." LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #93
Boom! bravenak Nov 2015 #96
They should also look up what he was planning with his Poor People's March on Washington. nt villager Nov 2015 #98
Too bad he was murdered by white supremacists for liberating blacks first. bravenak Nov 2015 #99
You certainly like wielding a cudgel to keep people separated from each other, eh, Bravenak? villager Nov 2015 #102
That was a historical fact! bravenak Nov 2015 #106
A little on King's assassination, in the wake of the civil trial: villager Nov 2015 #114
What does this have to do with ANYTHING? bravenak Nov 2015 #126
Huh? After all your shouted assertions that you knew exactly who killed King? And why? villager Nov 2015 #129
White supremacists killed King. bravenak Nov 2015 #131
Ok -- links and names, please. I provided some already. villager Nov 2015 #135
Ok. But they were still white supremacists. So they got help. Okay. And? bravenak Nov 2015 #139
They "got help?" Yeah, I guess you could minimize the role of police departments & intelligence villager Nov 2015 #144
Those institutions were filled with white supremacists. bravenak Nov 2015 #147
And... you haven't actually bothered to read what I posted/linked to, have you? villager Nov 2015 #150
You do not want to build bridges with me bravenak Nov 2015 #153
Wrong. But if you're hectoring people instead of talking with them, how will that bridge villager Nov 2015 #163
This is not hectoring. bravenak Nov 2015 #170
But *you're* the one supporting a white moderate for President! villager Nov 2015 #174
They are all MODERATES to ME! bravenak Nov 2015 #176
Well, that's actually a pretty fair statement. As was the need for each of us respecting villager Nov 2015 #183
You have a good one too. bravenak Nov 2015 #211
White supremacists killed King. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #204
You are very welcome. bravenak Nov 2015 #206
Amazingly, some seem to NOT realize, they are doing exactly what the excerpt of the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #116
Amazing that unabashed supporters of self-described white moderates are doing exactly villager Nov 2015 #121
Who would those people be? And, how does that relate to me ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #166
Well, it's not for me to tinker with your own personal irony-meter villager Nov 2015 #167
Oh, they KNOW. bravenak Nov 2015 #128
He wasn't killed simply for liberating blacks. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #246
He was killed because he caused a paradigm shift on race. bravenak Nov 2015 #256
If he was going to be killed solely over race, they'd have killed him in 1963, not 1968. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #263
You don't think they were trying to kill him for YEARS? bravenak Nov 2015 #265
Nobody's stopping you from having anything for yourselves. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #270
So. bravenak Nov 2015 #271
He fought the racists AND the oligarchy. It's just as heroic either way. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #276
He left it out the other day when he discussed the sanitation workers strike. bravenak Nov 2015 #281
It was wrong to do that, I agree. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #286
I see it as a pattern of behavior. A part of his personality. bravenak Nov 2015 #287
His killer: bravenak Nov 2015 #266
Dr. King's own family have questioned the idea that Ray was the killer. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #272
Okay. bravenak Nov 2015 #273
What's so threatening in admitting that the perceived threat was in King bringing class into it? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #138
Because it is rewriting history to place themselves front and center. bravenak Nov 2015 #220
For myself, I still place the freedom movement and Dr. King front and center. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #226
As long as people are aware of history and cultural appropriation. bravenak Nov 2015 #229
People using MLK to bludgeon black people??! The HELL you say! Number23 Nov 2015 #237
I try not to use the actual words that describe such nasty souls. bravenak Nov 2015 #239
I don't think anyone was saying Bernie was "BLM 50 years before BLM". Ken Burch Nov 2015 #245
I saw that EXACT QUOTE. bravenak Nov 2015 #253
Yes, he fought for blacks, first and foremost. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #274
You seem to be trying to say the real fight was the one you mention. That is the issue. bravenak Nov 2015 #275
That isn't what I meant at all. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #279
Okay. bravenak Nov 2015 #282
Sighhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #109
You DO realize the irony of your unabashed support for a white moderate, while saying this, right? villager Nov 2015 #132
Why do you assume he's an unabashed lovemydog Nov 2015 #223
They won't address the substance of your comment because they cant refute it. stevenleser Nov 2015 #217
No, it's the answer to using the "white moderate" strawman, especially by supporters of same villager Nov 2015 #228
Now thats two of us who you have responded to with things that were not in our posts. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #233
So sayeth the expert of conflating & assumptions? villager Nov 2015 #235
So Sayeth someone who can read simple English and know what's not posted. Nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #241
Well, whatever Steven. Good holidays to you & yours however. villager Nov 2015 #259
Yep. And seem to honestly believe that no one sees or understands what they're doing Number23 Nov 2015 #238
And in 2-4 months they will deny they ever did it. Like... stevenleser Nov 2015 #242
You know it. Either it was never said or it was actually secret double agent Hillary supporters Number23 Nov 2015 #244
Yep...and I remember it well zeemike Nov 2015 #110
Exactly. The final danger he posed is that we wouldn't all stay at each other's throats. villager Nov 2015 #141
Yep, the bitter irony.n/t zeemike Nov 2015 #186
He didn't win the Nobel for attacking white people. elehhhhna Nov 2015 #168
He won it for LIBERATING BLACK PEOPLE bravenak Nov 2015 #171
I am well aware of Dr. Kings history etc. and your shouting adds nothing to thus convo. elehhhhna Nov 2015 #179
I could support whom ever. They are all way to my RIGHT. bravenak Nov 2015 #181
That is odd. bvar22 Nov 2015 #249
the fact that he was assassinated shows that he made many whites uncomfortable. brush Nov 2015 #252
K&R mcar Nov 2015 #3
Thanks! bravenak Nov 2015 #8
K&R with yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #46
. bravenak Nov 2015 #59
Damn skippy....all those who tout Bernie marching? How many of them marched with BLM? nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #4
Even if they marched, they did it PATERNALISTICALLY. bravenak Nov 2015 #6
I would disbelieve any marching clains. nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #14
I believe nothing without video. Even then.... bravenak Nov 2015 #57
Yes, I remember the pics of them rushing to the front and middle of some protests. Couldn't bear to freshwest Nov 2015 #20
Some will never stop trying to make it all about themselves. Sad. bravenak Nov 2015 #21
Some will never stop trying to make it all about themselves. Sad. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #207
It was never about them and never will be. They want in on it and to get to make the rules. LOL bravenak Nov 2015 #208
Are you quite well? You seem to be getting closer and closer to the line which, mr blur Nov 2015 #212
I am very well. bravenak Nov 2015 #213
Are you quite well? You seem to be getting closer and closer to the line which.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #215
Beautiful sentiments. randys1 Nov 2015 #28
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #169
Meaning what? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #248
By the attitude that remains. bravenak Nov 2015 #254
If someone is accused, wrongly, of NOT marching in support of BLM Ken Burch Nov 2015 #267
But nobody was accusing you of NOT marching! bravenak Nov 2015 #268
If I read your post upthread right, you seemed to be saying that NO Sanders supporters marched. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #277
That is not exactly what I meant at all. bravenak Nov 2015 #278
I don't think you can even assume they did it paternalistically. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #284
I can when they use it to get credit and accolades. bravenak Nov 2015 #285
I think they're mainly doing it to show they are on your side. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #288
Many are. bravenak Nov 2015 #289
Oh bother. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #363
Here: bravenak Nov 2015 #364
Now who is being paternalistic? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #365
The same people as always. bravenak Nov 2015 #366
That was truly enlightening. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #367
I'm glad.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #368
Nice to see you happy. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #369
A lot of us did. And with full respect to the leadership of the marches. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #247
Indeed MaggieD Nov 2015 #5
. bravenak Nov 2015 #7
Well, I think you have to look at the historical context ProudToBeLiberal Nov 2015 #9
MalcolmX was needed for Mlk to be heard. Carrot and Stick. bravenak Nov 2015 #11
So, are you saying we need a Malcolm X today, so Black Lives Matter can be heard? ProudToBeLiberal Nov 2015 #19
I never said I wanted people to turn violent. bravenak Nov 2015 #22
No they didnt, Black Panthers said they had a right to defend themselves randys1 Nov 2015 #33
Thank you! And amen. Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #187
Reminds me of the shit they say about Rev Wright...To hear some folks tell it, Wright randys1 Nov 2015 #190
Yes and it looks rather like Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #195
The Black Panthers arose to fight police abuse AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #293
I remember the stick applied after MLK was killed very well. America burned. It may not have been freshwest Nov 2015 #68
Yep. bravenak Nov 2015 #71
Thanks. lovemydog Nov 2015 #10
Damn straight!!! Happy Turkey Day. bravenak Nov 2015 #12
I don't like any coopting or butchering of any messages lovemydog Nov 2015 #15
Exactly. Merely speculation. Nothing more. Bloviating. bravenak Nov 2015 #17
Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. lovemydog Nov 2015 #35
K&R! MeNMyVolt Nov 2015 #13
Thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #87
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HE WAS SHOT BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK bravenak Nov 2015 #18
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No bravenak Nov 2015 #65
White civil rights workers were killed too. Thats why he wasnt killed just for being black. 7962 Nov 2015 #34
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He was succeding at liberating BLACKS! bravenak Nov 2015 #38
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He was fighting for the liberation of blacks regardless of who was listening or wanted in on it. bravenak Nov 2015 #49
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You do not know what things meant to Dr King bravenak Nov 2015 #52
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Thank you. bravenak Nov 2015 #62
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In this thread you seem to try to speak for both him and his assailants Gore1FL Nov 2015 #75
I used his words. Show me where I said what he would do today. bravenak Nov 2015 #76
Exactly. No one assassinated Eugene Debs. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #216
My goodness. Some folks.. bravenak Nov 2015 #218
I just noticed the person you were responding to just got "auto removed." SunSeeker Nov 2015 #221
Awww! LOL! bravenak Nov 2015 #222
Or Medgar Evers, the little girls in the church, or godknows who many others... n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #255
YES, HE WAS! n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #257
THANK YOU! bravenak Nov 2015 #258
Horseshit! leftofcool Nov 2015 #31
Horseshit is the preferred fertilizer for growing mushrooms, who are kept in the dark. freshwest Nov 2015 #105
Horseshit is saying MLK wasn't shot because he was Black leftofcool Nov 2015 #148
I know that, *everyone* does. I see my attempt to lighten up the thread failed. Sorry, Bravenak. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #250
Simply amazed you would try to make a distinction like that. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #56
So what can those uncomfortable white people do? Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #23
Good information here on how uncomfortable white people can help. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #25
Sure is a lot of lecturing going on here, as usual. randys1 Nov 2015 #36
Love the women for Obama image in your sig line. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #43
Thanks, i have that in my sig now, for a while that url wasnt happening. randys1 Nov 2015 #79
Interesting. Kentonio Nov 2015 #299
If you look, you can see that I am GOOD at history. bravenak Nov 2015 #370
True to a point Kentonio Nov 2015 #371
If they double down I know for sure. bravenak Nov 2015 #372
Just be aware. Self awareness and cultural sensitivity. bravenak Nov 2015 #29
Hammer meet nail. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #24
Damn straight. We are not supposed to notice that!! bravenak Nov 2015 #27
The subtle and not so subtle ignorance lovemydog Nov 2015 #61
I seriously doubt it. Thats why he was victorious. 7962 Nov 2015 #30
Umm hmm bravenak Nov 2015 #50
Yep BLM makes some white folks uncomfy or unhappy because they have NO control randys1 Nov 2015 #39
Right on Randy! bravenak Nov 2015 #42
Actually BLM toned down their protests quite a bit after pushback from Seattle aikoaiko Nov 2015 #307
No they didn't. bravenak Nov 2015 #315
The first time BLM protested HRC they waited patiently in a "overflow" room. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #325
She has security. bravenak Nov 2015 #328
There was no attempt to get past security. BLM played nice for HRC aikoaiko Nov 2015 #361
Nobody tries to get past the secret service to get to a former First Lady unless they wish for pain. bravenak Nov 2015 #362
Maybe, but they might have ushered HRC out of the event aikoaiko Nov 2015 #373
This message was self-deleted by its author randys1 Nov 2015 #40
Republicans, yes AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #44
I understand more than just the ideology. bravenak Nov 2015 #54
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Nov 2015 #45
Thank you!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #53
you are so good bravenak wendylaroux Nov 2015 #72
Ummm hmmm bravenak Nov 2015 #73
I was a kid and I lived in a sundown town, and MLK did make White Folks very uncomfortable. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #60
He did. Very. bravenak Nov 2015 #63
K&R ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #64
25% of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #66
If you read back. bravenak Nov 2015 #69
That's exactly the sense I'm getting, as well, bravenak. MLK was a revolutionary by any standard BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #67
It is like Freshwest reminded me: bravenak Nov 2015 #74
Like Ghandi, MLK was a great man who's message reached out to all people. jalan48 Nov 2015 #77
But was intended for the liberation of African americans, not to be used as a cudgel AGAINST Blacks. bravenak Nov 2015 #82
Definately not as a cudgel against blacks. jalan48 Nov 2015 #84
Then I guess the Stockholm syndrome stuff should stop bravenak Nov 2015 #90
I don't know about the Stockholm syndrome. jalan48 Nov 2015 #107
GOOD. Do not read about it. Keep your mind clear from garbage. bravenak Nov 2015 #111
His message still resonates today. We were lucky to have him with us for the short time he was here. jalan48 Nov 2015 #119
So true! bravenak Nov 2015 #125
Like Ghandi, MLK was a great man who's message reached out to all people. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #214
MLK was only the start. Texas Blues Nov 2015 #78
Thank you for the thread winning post. I agree. bravenak Nov 2015 #80
It will take Whites being a minority in this country for the first time... blackspade Nov 2015 #112
i like to think that had mlk not been murdered, restorefreedom Nov 2015 #86
Me too bravenak Nov 2015 #103
I like the way you think. Can I sit by you? Hiraeth Nov 2015 #137
come on over, the seat's warm and there's hot chocolate! :) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #230
... and I've got some popcorn, Thanks! Hiraeth Nov 2015 #243
yum! popcorn and hot choc, doesn't get much better than that..:) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #251
Also, his popularity among white people at the time of his assassination lovemydog Nov 2015 #89
Damn straight. bravenak Nov 2015 #92
As an old white guy... revmclaren Nov 2015 #91
Bingo! bravenak Nov 2015 #101
Thread winner!!!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Nov 2015 #151
That was good. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #188
Possibly even more uncomfortable. blackspade Nov 2015 #94
I like to think so! bravenak Nov 2015 #100
You and me both. blackspade Nov 2015 #120
it's not MLK vs. Malcolm X, but MLK and Malcolm X vs. the guys who killed them MisterP Nov 2015 #95
And vs. the guys who misuse their legacy to cudgel blacks bravenak Nov 2015 #97
Hillary Clinton isn't black. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #117
Who said she was? We do support her though. Most of us and hispanics and women. bravenak Nov 2015 #124
Nobody is "cudgeling blacks". Big Mike tore Hillary Clinton up, though. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #127
Oooooh! You mean the guy who got a Grammy off of OUTKAST? bravenak Nov 2015 #130
He had one of the most critically acclaimed albums of 2014. Look it up. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #134
So? Best selling? Widest distribution? bravenak Nov 2015 #142
You're flailing, now. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #145
Ummm hmmm bravenak Nov 2015 #157
No, he didn't! leftofcool Nov 2015 #156
Or invokes that WOMAN as a comparison point. bravenak Nov 2015 #161
You don't know anything about hip hop. That's obvious. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #164
Dr King died when I was 16 and was already a hero to me Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #104
Yes. They should click the link. It is very good and in depth. bravenak Nov 2015 #108
MLK and social media would have been AWESOME to watch! GitRDun Nov 2015 #113
I might mess around and have to Angela Davis. Stress me out. bravenak Nov 2015 #118
There's just no way to Triangulate MLK's message into support for Goldman Sachs. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #115
Or into support for ANYBODY over Blacks. bravenak Nov 2015 #133
That's as historically inaccurate as your "White progressive" non-quote. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #140
Not bravenak Nov 2015 #143
You don't have an argument. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #149
Won before this started. bravenak Nov 2015 #155
You're comfortable with the cognitive dissonance of invoking MLK in support of the RW candidate. Romulox Nov 2015 #162
Opposite day bravenak Nov 2015 #175
Hillary is the more Rightwing candidate. It's just objective fact. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #177
They Are all moderates to me. I compare to myself. I'm over here, they are waaaaaay to my right. bravenak Nov 2015 #180
You're still supporting the more Rightwing candidate. We shall know you by your fruits. Romulox Nov 2015 #182
Because the fruits on the other side are sour. bravenak Nov 2015 #191
Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #290
Happy Tday! bravenak Nov 2015 #291
Great Tday to you too!~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #292
Good Gawd! leftofcool Nov 2015 #165
For real bravenak Nov 2015 #173
But some will desperately try. Every day, all day. elehhhhna Nov 2015 #184
Agreed. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #122
I'm pretty sure we cannot know. He was VERY religious. bravenak Nov 2015 #136
Well, yes, but what does that have to do with it? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #146
He was a radical. bravenak Nov 2015 #152
OK. That is true Ken Burch Nov 2015 #219
Sure he would. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #123
True bravenak Nov 2015 #159
Doesn't make me uncomfortable. Maedhros Nov 2015 #154
You know what? I'm glad. It really shouldn't. bravenak Nov 2015 #160
K and R geardaddy Nov 2015 #158
Bingo… MrScorpio Nov 2015 #172
His poor quotes suffer so much abuse and degradation. bravenak Nov 2015 #178
His period was still dealing with white people who thought black people weren't even human.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #185
Those people still exist. Dylann Storm Roof. Period. bravenak Nov 2015 #198
Especially hawkish white folks like Clinton Vattel Nov 2015 #189
Especially ones who bring up marching with him bravenak Nov 2015 #194
and he's probably be meeting with Bernie Sanders 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #192
Nobody knows. Speculation. bravenak Nov 2015 #193
yes, but isn't the story you linked to also speculation? 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #196
Do you know much about his daughter? Go read up. Then let me know if she is awesome. bravenak Nov 2015 #197
I didn't say she is awesome 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #199
You will not agree with her. bravenak Nov 2015 #201
Just ask John Lewis' poor FB page. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #200
I saw it. bravenak Nov 2015 #202
This is truth. retrowire Nov 2015 #203
. bravenak Nov 2015 #205
K and effin R F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #209
You are so funny! bravenak Nov 2015 #210
We don't know who Dr. King would support. But there's no reason to think it would be Hillary. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #224
I have no reason to make guesses. He is dead. bravenak Nov 2015 #225
And no reason to think he would endorse Sanders either. riversedge Nov 2015 #227
Most people never heard,or care about,BLM. virgogal Nov 2015 #231
That's nice. bravenak Nov 2015 #232
My 80 year old (white) mom knows BLM Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #240
Hmmmm! I'm an 80 year old white Mom. Odd coincidence. virgogal Dec 2015 #384
The author greatly underestimates the GOP mythology Nov 2015 #234
You are correct in my opinion. They can twist ANY QUOTE. bravenak Nov 2015 #236
This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Nov 2015 #260
Dr. King STILL makes many white people uncomfortable Empowerer Nov 2015 #261
You have it exactly right. bravenak Nov 2015 #262
Good article, thanks. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #264
It sure was, thank you. bravenak Nov 2015 #269
Were You... Or Author, Lincoln A. Blades, Alive When Martin Luther King, Jr. Was ??? WillyT Nov 2015 #280
Umm hmmm. Like that matters when I am perfectly correct on all points. bravenak Nov 2015 #283
KICK Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #294
"bastardizing King's quotes" Martin Eden Nov 2015 #295
More like pretending the fight against racism was secondary to FIGHTING THE OLIGARCHY!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #302
You should understand those struggles are not mutually exclusive. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #327
I understnd that. Do they understand that they are minimizing our struggle? bravenak Nov 2015 #331
"they" Martin Eden Nov 2015 #349
I have seen progressives do the minimizing way more often this year. bravenak Nov 2015 #351
You've certainly been arguing with progressives more, due to the Hillary vs Bernie primary fight Martin Eden Nov 2015 #355
This is all over the internet and in real life. bravenak Nov 2015 #357
No, I don't see how that can be construed as Bernie "minimizing" Martin Eden Nov 2015 #374
He did it with the nuclear waste thing too. bravenak Nov 2015 #378
I'm "white." 99Forever Nov 2015 #296
My very existance is a strike agains white supremacy. My kids struggle against racism in this fight bravenak Nov 2015 #303
Well aren't you special. 99Forever Nov 2015 #312
I like to think so. It seems that way most times. Happy holiday. bravenak Nov 2015 #314
Of course you are. 99Forever Nov 2015 #316
I already know that. bravenak Nov 2015 #318
I'm certain you do. 99Forever Nov 2015 #320
Glad you know. bravenak Nov 2015 #322
I probably am more aware of your character than you might think. 99Forever Nov 2015 #323
Probably not. bravenak Nov 2015 #324
Except MLK would not be telling liberals to STFU aikoaiko Nov 2015 #297
Yes he would, imo. bravenak Nov 2015 #300
Exactly. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #304
I can imagine. bravenak Nov 2015 #305
Oh, is your stepdad still living? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #306
Mine died in 96. bravenak Nov 2015 #308
Woh. Veeeerrrrrry iiiiinteresting. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #309
Sure is!! I said so at the time...nt bravenak Nov 2015 #311
The problem is too many white people think it was white people who gave you rights DemocraticWing Nov 2015 #298
Thank You!!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #301
"The problem is too many white people think it was white people who gave you rights" SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #310
Seriously. Who thinks that white people gave black people rights? Autumn Nov 2015 #313
I read all the time how much respect I need to give. bravenak Nov 2015 #317
Who believes or thinks that white people gave black people rights? Autumn Nov 2015 #319
Many. Too many to count. bravenak Nov 2015 #321
Well like it or not many white people supported the fight for civil rights Autumn Nov 2015 #326
Agreed. But I have noticed quite a bit of "you should." SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #332
Yeah, we all notice things don't we. nt Autumn Nov 2015 #334
Not sure of meaning here. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #335
This is GDP. Post to whomever you wish and post what you wish. Autumn Nov 2015 #345
Ooooookaaaaaaay. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #346
I really wasn't advising you. I simply stated the obvious, this is GDP, not the Sanders group. Autumn Nov 2015 #350
Well, I don't feel forced to post, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #353
Nobody said they didn't do stuff. But it was never for or about them. bravenak Nov 2015 #333
i don't see anyone saying it was for or about them. Autumn Nov 2015 #336
They say his real fight was against the oligarchy. bravenak Nov 2015 #337
It was, to an extent, and I am grateful. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #347
If the oligarchy is called white supremacy, then yes. bravenak Nov 2015 #348
True. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #352
Threatened with being kicked off? Was he a republican? Jesus. bravenak Nov 2015 #354
Don't remember. Empty, almost certainly. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #356
Yes, of course I knew you knew. It was for THEM. bravenak Nov 2015 #358
Sexist in today's world. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #359
True. Things were different. He actually depicted women with agency at times where others did not. bravenak Nov 2015 #360
Please see 338. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #340
So. White people say it was for or about them Autumn Nov 2015 #342
Please see 335. nt. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #343
Of course that was not their reason. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #344
It was for or about them to the extent that they had empathy. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #338
And many choose to do... Nothing. I thank those that fought at our side. bravenak Nov 2015 #339
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #341
"We notice it immediately" SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #329
I know you do. I wish more were like you. bravenak Nov 2015 #330
His message still makes white people uncomfortable gollygee Nov 2015 #375
Exactly. bravenak Nov 2015 #379
Great article in OP Gothmog Nov 2015 #376
. bravenak Nov 2015 #381
KICK.. still relevant. Cha Nov 2015 #377
Thanks. bravenak Nov 2015 #380
And, Mahalo to you~ Cha Nov 2015 #382
Fantastic thread, Bravnak. Kind of Blue Nov 2015 #383
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