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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:50 PM

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154. K&R - She is lying.

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194 replies	Author	Time	Post
Clinton's opposition to the TPP is insulting [View all]	cali	Dec 2015	OP
A very compelling case you make	99th_Monkey	Dec 2015	#1
I don't think unions are naive.	cali	Dec 2015	#2
It's entirely possible that Union leadership is every bit as corrupt as Hillary. [n/t]	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#5
Or, this may actually be a stroke of brilliance!	Bubzer	Dec 2015	#34
Uh...The TPP will be law long before the election.	jeff47	Dec 2015	#55
Ugh...I hope you're wrong. The TPP needs to be shitcanned	Bubzer	Dec 2015	#112
+100. n/t	whathehell	Dec 2015	#128
Union leadership is just fine: the GOP are corrupt: Hillary	lewebley3	Dec 2015	#177
No compelling case: the OP post is just a Sanders supporter	lewebley3	Dec 2015	#178
BEYOND insulting!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Dec 2015	#3
If I remember correctly you were calling Hillary out	upaloopa	Dec 2015	#4
Why yes, I didn't imagine she'd be so shamelessly cynical	cali	Dec 2015	#8
Never let facts get in the way of your spittle-flecked hatred, do you?	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#149
You want "Reality"?	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#159
You seem to imagine that Obama is on the "economic right"	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#181
Absurd	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#187
Yes, you're being absurd	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#188
Yeah...	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#189
I can spend months looking to buy a house...	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#190
So...	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#191
Wow indeed, what a word salad from you	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#192
A few hints:	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#193
Okay, so basically you got nothing	ConservativeDemocrat	Dec 2015	#194
We've been through this before... Did I "really want" NAFTA being "renegotiated"...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#166
Really, cali? Going for hides already? You like sitting in the corner?	randome	Dec 2015	#168
Please don't hide Cali!	Amimnoch	Dec 2015	#179
Don't we all! That includes you, loops. nm	floriduck	Dec 2015	#26
So much for that prediction	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#31
It makes no difference to some people what she says because they have their agenda.	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#39
She's a weathervane. If she wins the nomination she'll flip flop again.	beam me up scottie	Dec 2015	#64
Exactly	liberalmike27	Dec 2015	#130
It's just Hillary being Hillary.	Paka	Dec 2015	#6
...+1	840high	Dec 2015	#22
Welcome back!	arcane1	Dec 2015	#7
welcome back	ibegurpard	Dec 2015	#9
I did not know there was	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#11
Why would you need to?	brooklynite	Dec 2015	#141
I don't believe I've	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#165
Trade agreements support millions of US jobs and contribute to GDP.	JaneyVee	Dec 2015	#10
ones that stay in this country?	ibegurpard	Dec 2015	#12
America has won every single tribunal, and...	JaneyVee	Dec 2015	#17
Free Trade agreements are anti-incentives to keep jobs here	Armstead	Dec 2015	#92
A decade of negotiation...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#96
A lot more to it than that	Armstead	Dec 2015	#122
haha	DonCoquixote	Dec 2015	#113
Almost. We lost the "what is a catfish?" fight against Vietnam	Recursion	Dec 2015	#118
You misunderstand	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#161
Yes--in China n/t	eridani	Dec 2015	#116
Why am I not surprised to see you support the TPP which kills American jobs. In fact they	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#180
You need to read her book - as I have told you before	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#13
Some Hillary quotes about TPP	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2015	#19
You should have read her book....	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#21
If she had had so much skepticism about it so long ago,	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2015	#23
She did - you just weren't paying attention	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#30
Oh, for crying out loud	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2015	#36
In case know one ever says it...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#37
the Hillary Haters!	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#49
Look at this OP...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#61
Look at this OP...	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#63
The truth is not a form of hate.	Major Hogwash	Dec 2015	#78
Repetitive innuendo and speculation,	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#86
Not hardly.	Major Hogwash	Dec 2015	#89
You mean like every time you see an enormous and garish BERNIE meme on a post...	Nitram	Dec 2015	#123
Thanks	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#52
Haters just have to hate Maggie	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#50
That's the problem with letting emotions overtake you in politics	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#54
I think the fact is that	nyabingi	Dec 2015	#147
So why has she voted against trade bills in the past?	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#148
She may have voted against them in the past	nyabingi	Dec 2015	#150
She was conditionally supportive of it if it contained the right criteria	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#152
That would be like conditionally supporting slavery when it was legal if it had free schooling...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#167
MaggieD, your messages about Hillary are always welcome. However I feel	asjr	Dec 2015	#137
I'll tell you one more thing	Art_from_Ark	Dec 2015	#24
You should have read her book....	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#40
The charge seems to be she is new to this idea	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#41
she has been saying the same things about trade for 15 years.	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#42
She writes her own books	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#43
She writes her own books	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#46
Well you asked - and her editor says she writes her own books	MaggieD	Dec 2015	#57
She has changed her mind 4 times since she wrote her book.	Major Hogwash	Dec 2015	#79
These agreements are inherently bad	Armstead	Dec 2015	#93
Precisely. That is the biggest problem with NAFTA & the TPP.	senz	Dec 2015	#100
Great to see you Cali. Your voice was missed here on DU.	jalan48	Dec 2015	#14
Nice to see you back!	tazkcmo	Dec 2015	#15
It just can't be!	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#16
as i've argued it from the beginning, she's closer to the repubs	stupidicus	Dec 2015	#18
Yes I would like to hear that too. nt	navarth	Dec 2015	#160
....	in_cog_ni_to	Dec 2015	#20
You are absolutely RIGHT about this. And you have stated it perfectly.	CaliforniaPeggy	Dec 2015	#28
Thank you, CaliforniaPeggy.	in_cog_ni_to	Dec 2015	#62
Yup… the last time I voted for Hillary	Agony	Dec 2015	#82
Anyone who believes Hillary on this	Broward	Dec 2015	#25
Love is blind.	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2015	#32
I am so happy you are back. Your insight and voice were missed deeply.	Autumn	Dec 2015	#27
I think large numbers of us consider her a joke.	Doctor_J	Dec 2015	#29
Huge +1!	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#120
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!	WillyT	Dec 2015	#33
Very good.	MuseRider	Dec 2015	#35
Hillary Ingested Shrooms Prior to Statement Opposing TPP	LS_Editor	Dec 2015	#38
From the debate that she delivered this lie:	Jarqui	Dec 2015	#44
She's evolved into the Master Class of CYA politics. K&R and welcome back.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2015	#45
I guess as the Bern continues to fade....	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#47
Don't even care about the issue?	senz	Dec 2015	#103
I'm more mystified as to why some here want to weaken the Dem nominee	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#110
Three little facts to reduce your mystification.	senz	Dec 2015	#111
we don't have a Dem nominee yet	ibegurpard	Dec 2015	#115
I'm more mystified as to why some here think we have a Dem nominee	Autumn	Dec 2015	#129
Actually, hundreds of votes have been cast.	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#131
You know superdelgates are not binding, they are free to vote for any candidate they wish at the	Autumn	Dec 2015	#134
I'll bookmark this post for reading in March.	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#135
That's the point. Should something happen as it did in 2008	Autumn	Dec 2015	#136
You're missing the point	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#138
No I'm not missing anything. nt	Autumn	Dec 2015	#142
See you in March	philosslayer	Dec 2015	#145
Sanders is not "once in a lifetime," he is unique!	immoderate	Dec 2015	#157
Bernie Sanders not a "once in a lifetime" candidate? Many of us want another FDR...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#169
I've never returned to a full time job after NAFTA	Phlem	Dec 2015	#48
As long as the others	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#53
Exactly.	Phlem	Dec 2015	#56
N/P	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#66
CALI!	hootinholler	Dec 2015	#51
k&r/Hey Cali! Welcome back.	AtomicKitten	Dec 2015	#58
Some cannot grasp that those who oppose Hillary don't 'hate' her personally... it's the obvious	AzDar	Dec 2015	#59
When I call someone a LIAR...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#65
I have a cousin who is a pathological liar... I don't hate her, but I don't fucking trust her.	AzDar	Dec 2015	#67
I'm sure your cousin...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#76
Look... if Hillary gets upset about being labelled a "liar", perhaps she shouldn't lie. But she does	AzDar	Dec 2015	#88
And here I thought it was a Democracy.	Phlem	Dec 2015	#71
K&R!!!!	Phlem	Dec 2015	#60
Not the Gold Standard, says Bernie	gordyfl	Dec 2015	#68
Does he mention what is the gold standard?	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#70
your right wing is showing.	Phlem	Dec 2015	#73
Right wing is thinking you can negotiate a trade deal...	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#77
Sorry, I grew up in the Philippines under Marcus	Phlem	Dec 2015	#81
Not Perfect? Not Even Close...	gordyfl	Dec 2015	#85
Are you scared? Is TPP horrifying?	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#90
"Question everything doesn't apply to just one side!"	Phlem	Dec 2015	#91
You think this Hillary Hate is new and original?	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#94
I liked her just fine until she fought VERY dirty in the 2008 campaign.	senz	Dec 2015	#106
That did it for me, too, senz.	Duval	Dec 2015	#163
I guess you're in what you would call "good company," yallerdog	senz	Dec 2015	#105
YEP!!! Explain WHY MORE Republicans supported TPP than Democrats, huh?	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#170
Welcome back	jfern	Dec 2015	#69
The extra heaping of insulting is she waited until after TPA passed, making the TPP a done deal.	jeff47	Dec 2015	#72
She wants to be a winner.	Major Hogwash	Dec 2015	#80
Yea, my mom was all about herself.	Phlem	Dec 2015	#84
Absolutely. That was the defining vote	cali	Dec 2015	#83
She plays us all for fools and many are proving her right.	Broward	Dec 2015	#87
Unbelievable!	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#97
That sound is the point sailing over your head.	jeff47	Dec 2015	#99
Now, you said, "She waited until after TPA passed, making the TPP a done deal."	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#102
And the point goes further over your head.	jeff47	Dec 2015	#108
So, why should she and we by agreeing with her LOVE taking away the Democrats' ability to filibuster	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#171
TPA was "the filibuster" cloture vote.	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#174
And then WHY did congress NOT KNOW about what was in TPP when they voted on TPA?	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#175
Were you told this or do you make it up?	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#182
Frankly I prefer our CONSTITUTION and OUR court system and not a CORPORATE ISDS court...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#183
I'm sure other countries wil go along with that!	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#184
So you will like Transcanada suing us for "lost profits" and "giving us 35 jobs"...	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#185
That is pure fiction!	yallerdawg	Dec 2015	#186
K & R	beam me up scottie	Dec 2015	#74
K&R!!!!	Phlem	Dec 2015	#75
K&R.	SixString	Dec 2015	#95
Excellent OP. Thanks for presenting the case for what I've strongly sensed.	senz	Dec 2015	#98
Great summary, but you omitted a couple important facts	Jim Lane	Dec 2015	#101
Thank you, Jim.	cali	Dec 2015	#146
This is what gets me	davidpdx	Dec 2015	#104
And I'm glad you're back.	senz	Dec 2015	#107
Funny, I don't feel insulted.	McCamy Taylor	Dec 2015	#109
One more very good analysis.	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#114
Hillary says things when they are convenient to her needs, she is a Convenient Candidate IMO nt	slipslidingaway	Dec 2015	#117
K&R! I think this post should have hundreds of recommendations!	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#119
Welcome back, cali!	LuvNewcastle	Dec 2015	#121
The candidate of expedience!	retrowire	Dec 2015	#124
I've heard rumors some of the people she most trusts are hedge fund owners.	raouldukelives	Dec 2015	#125
Wish I could rec this	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#132
K&R Glad you are back. nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#126
Welcome back, cali.	Le Taz Hot	Dec 2015	#127
I no longer pay attention to anything Hillary says.	djean111	Dec 2015	#133
Well she is consistent	SHRED	Dec 2015	#139
Only to those who believe a word she says	Doctor_J	Dec 2015	#140
...and the 56% of Democrats supporting her are...	brooklynite	Dec 2015	#143
So Bernie and O'Malley got outmaneuvered	firebrand80	Dec 2015	#144
Yes, they were maneuvered. Those like Hillary, willing to lie, to not hold to any ethical standard	cali	Dec 2015	#164
"Better" in what context? To win for HER, or provide a better candidate for the American people?	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#172
Difficult to have a conversation here w/o being accused of hating the other candidate	EndElectoral	Dec 2015	#151
Yawn	leftofcool	Dec 2015	#153
Lol.	cali	Dec 2015	#156
K&R - She is lying.	fbc	Dec 2015	#154
No surprise at all	sammythecat	Dec 2015	#155
The real reason	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#158
I agree. It's that simple and that contemptible.	cali	Dec 2015	#162
All the more reason we need to push for H-1B and other "guest worker" program stances from her now..	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#173
kick...	Segami	Dec 2015	#176

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