2016 Postmortem

akbacchus_BC

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10. You never know! Mr. Sanders is honest and am sure

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 02:38 AM

Dec 2015

intelligent Americans understand that his philosophy is to help Americans get back on their feet. Please do not get me wrong, President Obama did more and beyond, inspite of the GOP disagreeing with him all of the time. President Obama, in my eyes as a Canadian, is the best President after President Kennedy. I really do not care for Bill Clinton, Black America adored him but he never did squat to help Black Americans. He instituted laws that adversely affected Black and gay people. I never did like Bill Clinton.

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But, but .. "Americans would NEVER elect a Democratic Socialist as President!!!!!" [View all] 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 OP

Now, I've always had huge respect for FDR. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #1

If I was looking for a plausible excuse to entirely miss the point of the OP 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #4

I agree with this as well. WW2 was the reason. draa Dec 2015 #5

FDR won 3 presidential elections before the US entered WWII. (NT) Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #8

The 1940 election was for his 3rd term and his 4th in 1944. neverforget Dec 2015 #11

He was first elected in 1932; second time was 1936; third time was 1940. 1monster Dec 2015 #13

My mother was born in 1916. She lived through the Great Depression. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #21

His sole wartime election was not war-based. senz Dec 2015 #23

FDR Was Certainly One of If Not Our MOST Beloved President EVER... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #2

+10 well said. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #3

absolutely people don't know very much about our own roguevalley Dec 2015 #32

Did FDR call himself a socialist? mythology Dec 2015 #6

FDR did what we both know he did, and was called a "socialist" for doing it. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #9

He may have been called socialist but he was and his family were registered Democrats FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #58

Personally, I don't "love" Sanders. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #60

Quite right. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #62

Income and wealth disparities are similar to the late 1920s just before the Great Depression Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #15

... Scuba Dec 2015 #54

We Need Another Roosevelt, Not Another Clinton Yallow Dec 2015 #7

I agree with you, America has had enough of the bushes and the Clintons. akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #14

You never know! Mr. Sanders is honest and am sure akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #10

When you represent working Americans they will vote for you. pa28 Dec 2015 #12

He was elected for LIFE. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #16

FDR was not a Democratic Socialist. He never claimed to be a Democratic Socialist. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #17

If you keep saying that, over and over, you might make it "true" 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #18

Semantics become some antics with some. Kick. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #20

It's not semantics. It's refuting an outright lie. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #26

Wow. Ok. Labels and actions.... Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #29

You guys are good at putting words in people's mouths. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #30

Democratic socialist. Again semantics. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #31

Not semantics. It's a lie. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #38

Ok, don't think I ever said he did. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #40

It's still wrong... Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #41

Aha! Semantics! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #44

It's not semantics. I don't think you understand what that word means. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #46

No, you can't willy-nilly claim something out of thin air. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #51

Give up, Drunken Irishman SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #82

read about his opposition. FDR didn't have to say it. Everyone against him did roguevalley Dec 2015 #33

And they say the same about Obama... Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #37

Hitler and the Nazis had "socialist" in their name. Does that make them in the sense of the word?.. cascadiance Dec 2015 #76

lol just stop it. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #83

You're right a "democrat" is a member of a political party. There is no comparison... cascadiance Dec 2015 #86

You're right. I am right. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #91

FDR can be Democrat and have SOCIALIST PHILOSOPHY just like Eisenhower arguably was socialist too! cascadiance Dec 2015 #92

That does not make him a Democratic Socialist. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #93

He never called himself that, but his enemies did and his policies were exactly that. Scuba Dec 2015 #56

And Obama's enemies call him socialist too... Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #84

It is true. Show me a quote where he claimed to be a socialist. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #24

Politifact: Obama right that Roosevelt was called a socialist and a communist 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #34

Uh...Obama has been called a socialist and a communist... Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #35

Bernie "calling himself a Socialist" takes the issue head-on, and guess what? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #39

We're not debating what the little people think... Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #42

Boo Hoo 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #45

I'm not going to alert. But it's wrong. It's factually wrong. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #48

Your concern is duly noted. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #49

Yep. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #52

Like my gf, just said: 'if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck... " 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #64

Yeah, like an ice cold slurpee right before a root canal! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #73

Not the first time BS and camp have tried to co-opt Dem achievements. Rose Siding Dec 2015 #87

Disagree about most of the little people treestar Dec 2015 #67

But you are making my point. Obama was one thing. Bernie is quite another. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #71

He also strongly asserts "democratic socialist" as the term that describes himself... cascadiance Dec 2015 #77

Then find a speech or piece of writing treestar Dec 2015 #66

FDR was then, Bernie is now. Completely different milieu. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #72

See this and tell me that FDR was not a Democratic Socialist AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #22

Watched. Didn't hear once FDR say anything about socialism or claimed to be a Democratic Socialist. Drunken Irishman Dec 2015 #25

What he said is pretty much in line with Democratic Socialism AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #53

Still he did not use that label on himself as Bernie has treestar Dec 2015 #69

Thank you but reality doesn't exist here! FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #94

Fox News wasn't in business when Roosevelt was in office jmowreader Dec 2015 #19

FDR made some political compromises that make Hillary Clinton's look downright puny. Zynx Dec 2015 #27

He never claimed to be a socialist ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #28

FDR was accused of being a "socialist" by his political foes. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #36

I repeat ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #43

Bickering about semantics does not overly interest me. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #47

If you think ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #50

The condescension is getting very thick ..agh, it's hard to breath. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #68

I thought calling you "naive" ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #88

Have you read the actual history or watched the American Experience vids on his amazing presidency underthematrix Dec 2015 #57

+1 treestar Dec 2015 #70

Thank you! JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #89

Words have meaning. redstateblues Dec 2015 #61

Americans have rejected socialism over and over again, right? Scuba Dec 2015 #55

I see...FDR was a "Democratic Socialist" because an internet graphic says so... brooklynite Dec 2015 #63

FDR's political foes incessantly accused him of being a Socialist, just like Obama's have. n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #75

You've twisted yourself into a pretzel redstateblues Dec 2015 #78

Oh please. I'm not even trying to "prove" FDR "called himself a Socialist". 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #79

Glad you've given up on that. It didn't work redstateblues Dec 2015 #80

Mic drop - K&R Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #65

Good luck with this concept Gothmog Dec 2015 #74

Stop using corporatist, Oligarchical polling data redstateblues Dec 2015 #81

Bernie Sanders is not Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and 2016 America is not 1932 America. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #85

Remember when Sanders made a "major policy speech" on Democratic Socialism? brooklynite Dec 2015 #90