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55. I understand his strategy.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

He has 38 days left, and his numbers for POC/women and others have barely budged. So he's back to plan a, hoping to appeal to white conservative voters. He's talked about this for years, so it's not some new idea he just had.

it practically writes itself, doesn't it? now he's a fundie warmonger on top of a racist manspreader MisterP Dec 2015 #1
very sad day when we help perpetuate the idea that we can't come together. GO, BERNIE! roguevalley Dec 2015 #39
ONLY corporacrats are allowed to have crossover appeal cprise Dec 2015 #122
and "crossover appeal" can only mean "copying GOP policies," not "convert Pub voters MisterP Dec 2015 #137
Indeed. R voters are supposedly 'unchangeable' UNLESS cprise Dec 2015 #144
Cross-over appeal was supposed to be a one-way street: rightward traffic only! eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #158
schtick enid602 Dec 2015 #206
Only supporters of triangulating candidates would confuse authenticity and schtick. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #207
I have never trusted the Sanders campaign: He and is supporters are not lewebley3 Dec 2015 #221
We'll give that the thought it deserves Android3.14 Dec 2015 #223
See sig. joshcryer Dec 2015 #2
The misplaced ire of Hillary peeps at Bernie for redirecting RWers' misplaced ire to Wall St. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #6
You do know FDR died in office? SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #25
22nd amendment n2doc Dec 2015 #27
I know that SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #31
Is this germane to the discussion? Or does the desire to be pedantic overwhelm good sense? Proserpina Dec 2015 #41
Which is what the poster.... daleanime Dec 2015 #111
Wasn't passed Old Codger Dec 2015 #50
It was in large part about FDR. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #116
Acceptable Proserpina Dec 2015 #148
Its only misplaced ire because Hillary is actively courting Wall St FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #80
Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2015 #3
Someone called it "poaching votes" - whatever the hell that means. djean111 Dec 2015 #4
That was a real WTF. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #11
They're just annoyed that The Chosen One didn't think of it first. sarge43 Dec 2015 #13
It doesn't matter, here crossover appeal is very low. nt artislife Dec 2015 #72
There seems to have been a "gentleman's" agreement between the Democratic and Republican Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #17
You got it. LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #197
It would seem that way, wouldn't it? merrily Dec 2015 #204
Exactly and they are working hard now to stop the people from uniting, which actually is beginning sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #226
Better than pandering for votes. 840high Dec 2015 #36
I think it means "simmered in wine" Proserpina Dec 2015 #53
"Simmered in whine?" senz Dec 2015 #92
Or both Proserpina Dec 2015 #149
It's projection of the Clintonian attitude isn't it? JackRiddler Dec 2015 #105
Her arrogance is astounding. LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #198
The times are very different treestar Dec 2015 #5
Very true. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #46
See thread dedicated to this comment Jackilope Dec 2015 #140
Yes, the economy is not all that bad davidpdx Dec 2015 #174
The economy has been going along like LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #199
I've never heard saying before davidpdx Dec 2015 #200
Go to Free Speech TV to hear about it. eom Duval Dec 2015 #219
I've been laid off twice. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #213
One cannot be a Trump supporter and not be a racist. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #7
They said that about Dean. joshcryer Dec 2015 #15
Link? MohRokTah Dec 2015 #22
Um, the Confederate flag gaffe. joshcryer Dec 2015 #33
Still a little wet behind the ears, that one. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #157
So are you saying we are racists now then though?... cascadiance Dec 2015 #37
It's really a shame you actually have to explain this. pangaia Dec 2015 #91
A-yup ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #43
First time I've seen a prejudice labeled as a "fact" Proserpina Dec 2015 #57
So what about those Clinton-supporting friends of yours who favor Trump to Sanders...? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #70
not so ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #99
Yes, so. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #150
Former President Jimmy Carter calls the US "n oligarchy with unlimited political bribery" Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #153
Proving even former presidents can be taken in by conspiracy theory woo. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #155
I think Jimmy Carter is an internationally trusted expert on fair and free elections so his views as Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #160
He was still taken in by conspiracy theory woo. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #161
woo! ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #176
If only President Carter were as clued in as a DU poster! LOL! merrily Dec 2015 #202
Lemme see, who should I trust? Jimmy Carter or MohRokTah? Scuba Dec 2015 #209
Hey, I can answer that for you, but I'm sure you already know! Duval Dec 2015 #217
MohRokTah, surely you jest! eom Duval Dec 2015 #218
Add former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich to the list as well davidpdx Dec 2015 #165
Hmmmmm! JackRiddler Dec 2015 #108
Pleae cite a source to back up your "factual" comment. Scuba Dec 2015 #208
Yeah, somehow pulling voters to the left is a bad thing. Broward Dec 2015 #8
And apparently it's 'bad' to defuse racist hatred or actually educate the electorate 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #26
It's all a team game to them. I started buying into it Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #29
Yep, basically REVERSING the "Reagan Democrats" equation many years ago... cascadiance Dec 2015 #38
Interesting observation re: reversing Reaganist residue. Thanks. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #44
Bernie is not "defusing racist hatred" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #45
Shhhh kjones Dec 2015 #88
Agreed ... To the carpenter ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #95
So, how was his protests against segregation in his early years a "money/economics" issue? cascadiance Dec 2015 #101
So in summary kjones Dec 2015 #135
The DLC faction of Dems was built on the concept that wanted to appeal to economic conservatives... cascadiance Dec 2015 #146
It depends on what the racism, etc. is based on. senz Dec 2015 #168
Okay. No it won't; but, okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #171
Another day, another one of their memes that backfired. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #9
Democratic Socialism and Democratic Workplaces need to become the norm! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #10
Bernie is right in going after Trump supporters, the vast majority of which are part of the 99%, Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #12
Socialist Bernie goes where no DNC-backed candidate dares to tread 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #21
I totally agree Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #23
true words you spoke there uncle joe questionseverything Dec 2015 #32
True and well said, Uncle Joe. senz Dec 2015 #120
She's pissed because she's already locked up the Bush supporters Doctor_J Dec 2015 #14
It is amazing. I don't know whether to rec their OP's or just laugh at them. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #16
You know who'd be happy about Bernie taking Trump votes? Reince Preibus. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #18
We do not like hearing a Democratic candidate call our issues, "wedge issues" and to put them seabeyond Dec 2015 #19
Apparently, some here think the Democratic party should be made exclusively of members Live and Learn Dec 2015 #20
We don't need racists and homophobes redstateblues Dec 2015 #83
Or you could try to change their minds like Bernie is. Teach them to put their anger where it truly Live and Learn Dec 2015 #84
Wasn't Hillary opposed to Marriage Equality until she only recently "evolved"? .. Homophobia 101.... Indepatriot Dec 2015 #215
I just doubt it will work RandySF Dec 2015 #24
He isn't trying to convert the wacko's. There are a lot of Republicans that are just as dissatisfied rhett o rick Dec 2015 #28
Of course it won't work universally, but I really admire Bernie for standing up to Trump 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #30
Well, it won't work, so I'm not really that worked up about it. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #34
It's not like this is Bernie's "ONLY strategy" .. please. I think you know better. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #47
I understand his strategy. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #55
Going from 1% to 32% w/ AA's is "barely budged"? I don't think so. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #58
When your opponent is maintaining 68%, um yes. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #61
Bernie's been appealing to voters of all stripes from day one. See Liberty University. n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #62
Yeah, I'm looking at it. We all are. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #64
I don't understand the big deal is here ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #51
I know that's who he's talked about a lot when he claims Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #63
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #74
I'm interested in watching this exercise play out. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #81
No it hasn't Lordquinton Dec 2015 #112
Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #130
Republicans of low income vote Republican very often and espcially currently because Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #159
I think you are reading more into what Bernie has been saying to these low income whites ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #167
Really. Lordquinton Dec 2015 #183
A nice contrast to the Sanders supporters being outraged about champagne glasses Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #35
It's better to court Trump voters than Banksters Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #40
Until there's a vote, it is unfair (and unkind, not to mention self-defeating) to call anyone Proserpina Dec 2015 #49
Very well said. Woot! n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #56
Thank you! Proserpina Dec 2015 #59
Yeah he is. Go get em Bern. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #42
I support HRC and feel no "outrage" with SBS's remarks. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #48
Someone alerted on your OP. chervilant Dec 2015 #52
Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #60
So it was the "Hillarian" thing that riled this alert? Wow 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #75
The results are in: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #65
Yes, I just got them, too: chervilant Dec 2015 #69
Those "Pesky Little People" FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #54
I feel sorry for you. I really do postatomic Dec 2015 #66
Your faux 'concern' is not very convincing 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #73
"uncanny ability to defuse racist hatred" postatomic Dec 2015 #78
What about Trumps... MrWendel Dec 2015 #67
Trump like Bernie is anti status quo. Many of his followers may not be racist but just A Simple Game Dec 2015 #110
Exactly: "Many Trump followers may not be racist but just looking for an alternative... 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #151
So they aren't racists, they just excuse Trump's racist comments. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #156
They must be "Hard working Americans, white Americans"..... Indepatriot Dec 2015 #216
What percentage... MrWendel Dec 2015 #184
Trump doesn't have policies. senz Dec 2015 #164
I hope that Sanders devotes a ton of time to this effort Gothmog Dec 2015 #68
I totally agree with you re: Sanders not crashing a Trump rally. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #76
I was worried about the Sanders supporters trying to do this Gothmog Dec 2015 #79
Agreed, totally. Thanks for saying this, because some might have tried otherwise. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #106
Regardless of potential violence it would be a mistake. RichVRichV Dec 2015 #177
Yeah, Trump's Brownshirt rallies are fucking scary! JunkyardAngel83 Dec 2015 #196
Then quit bellyaching when Sanders is compared R B Garr Dec 2015 #71
You think he can find common ground with those insane racists? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #77
On things like economic inequality, yes AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #86
LOL, now you've confirmed what has been said R B Garr Dec 2015 #96
You obviously didn't watch Bernie's speech at Liberty U AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #97
Oh, please. Who didn't watch it. Just more R B Garr Dec 2015 #109
Very interesting post and points Number23 Dec 2015 #119
So you'd welcome Trump's racists to join your movement? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #115
A subset of Trumpers are mainly just pissed-off & scared, and hate Establishment politicians 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #87
So you think lots of Trump supporters are not actually racists ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #114
Listen, we are all "racists" in a way, i.e. it's like a nasty virus 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #132
Ahhh ... so stupid racists who are too dumb to know who to blame ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #138
The snark notwithstanding, your premise is faulty. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #145
You are missing something ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #147
You are laying claim to perfect knowledge re: inner-workings of Trump fans' minds on 3 counts 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #152
You have heard his racist comments, correct? JoePhilly Dec 2015 #154
There you go again, making sweeping baseless assumptions. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #170
I'll go slow for you. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #172
It's not about "going slow", it's about baseless misleading assertions & assumptions 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #179
So you think their racism is a temporary state ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #180
I've said what I think, and stand by it. You've done likewise 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #182
This is the equivalent... MrWendel Dec 2015 #82
Is this just a coincidence, or what? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #100
Which... MrWendel Dec 2015 #185
Fuck Trump. He doesn't 'represent' anyone except himself. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #187
So ... MrWendel Dec 2015 #188
Yes, in fact they DO have something in common 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #191
Your still deflecting... MrWendel Dec 2015 #192
You asked a question, and I gave my answer (which you didn't like) . boo hoo. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #193
I asked... MrWendel Dec 2015 #194
Trump supporters have legitimate concerns TheFarseer Dec 2015 #85
+100 Exactly. The more hate the better for some, or so it seems sometimes. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #93
they know it's her last shot and they know she's going to lose, they're desperate. bowens43 Dec 2015 #89
Sanders totally outwitted and outfoxed the Clinton camp--and they can't stand it CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #90
Very incisive observations. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #98
They are scrambling and desperate CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #124
All the various efforts LWolf Dec 2015 #128
just more Hillarian hypocrisy/shortsightedness on shameless display stupidicus Dec 2015 #94
FDR was not a socialist - on their contrary, he... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #102
Well you can always hope, can't you? senz Dec 2015 #113
This isn't about me, or about the cold war, it's about .... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #123
Does it scare you that Bernie's steadily gaining? senz Dec 2015 #131
I'm not am emotional person, and I don't scare easy.... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #139
Exactly. Bernie's hero is Eugene Debs, not FDR. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #129
Common sense would dictate making a plea to republicans, Hillary does business and deals with Trump orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #103
I will put here what I put in the thread... one_voice Dec 2015 #104
OK. Let's talk. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #125
You missed my point... one_voice Dec 2015 #141
funny you use Roosevelt dsc Dec 2015 #107
Here's the difference: Bernie sees the American people as people. senz Dec 2015 #117
poker chips--appeal to them one by one and cash 'em in MisterP Dec 2015 #118
Sorry, I see his supporters as apes and assholes. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #127
Very well said, senz! Duval Dec 2015 #220
Maybe HRC thought Trump would toss his voters to her when he folds... polichick Dec 2015 #121
No deary, Sanders is going for them. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #133
deary??? Now I've heard everything. lol polichick Dec 2015 #134
Wrong. Some of them are going for Sanders. senz Dec 2015 #166
ah yes, the Papen Maneuver MisterP Dec 2015 #142
Bernie will catch them when Trump falls Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #163
Ah yes, the classic "guilt by association" attack.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #126
Just what we need, a bunch of ignorant racist, greedy warmongers. That's 98+% Hoyt Dec 2015 #136
Clinton, Clinton. But totally agreee. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #143
Since Trump will be dropping out. They will have somewhere to go! Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #162
Add this one to the OP Lucky Luciano Dec 2015 #169
Yes. THIS^ Bernie is uniquely loaded for bear on wages & income inequality. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #173
Nice. Socialism for shareholders. Capitalism for me. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #205
It must be nice itsrobert Dec 2015 #175
And know that one or two hosts will keep your OP open, yardwork Dec 2015 #222
The Swarm needs to come up with better talking points. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #178
K&R yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #181
K&R for putting the poutrage du jour in perspective. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #186
You're most welcome BMUS. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #189
Cheers! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #190
yeah, the Hillary brigade is really embarrassing itself on this one and undermining Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #195
The horror of a Democratic Presidential candidate's trying to get Republican and Indie votes!11!11! merrily Dec 2015 #201
You know, they did not model that! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #203
They don't want Dems appealing to racists.... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #210
I wonder how many Hillary supporters "recommended" this OP? INdemo Dec 2015 #211
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #212
Amusement for me. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #214
Hillarian rage aside... malthaussen Dec 2015 #224
You know as well as I do that Bernie's ONLY referring to those Trumpers who're being duped 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #225
Locking... Spazito Dec 2015 #227
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