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In reply to the discussion: What should the federal minimum wage be? [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)140. Apparently if they have to pay workers too much, McDonalds will pack up and sell their burgers to us
from overseas.
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Actually $21 would be fairer. That's what it would be if adjusted for inflation.
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#12
Seems you can't discuss this rationally and I am not surprised because you've taken
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#46
And my point is that $12 is an insult. It's not a living wage. Why not $15?
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#55
Your arguements don't have anything to do with the morality of providing a living wage.
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#66
Show me a study that says that raising the min wage causes unemployment and inflation.
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#82
You disagree with Senator Warren, then. If twelve bucks is an "insult," you're gonna HATE ten
MADem
Jan 2016
#104
Not sure what your point is there--the other poster was calling two bucks more than that
MADem
Jan 2016
#139
I support a $15 min wage. I guess you support a mere $10.10. Sad when Democrats care more
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#129
Do you at least agree that it is possible to set the minimum wage too high?
BlueCheese
Jan 2016
#131
I have never seen any articles claiming that. Maybe you can link me to one. nm
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#205
"giving excessive resources to those that don't produce...is a recipe for societal collapse"
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2016
#105
Yeah, and then taxpayers are on the hook providing "additional services" to people who work 40+ hrs
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#18
And this is all preferable to simply telling McDonalds, etc. to pay their workers a living wage?
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#78
Ah, Capital Flight.. Like, McDonalds is going to take all their burger-selling operations to Mexico
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#136
I disagree. Maybe that's true in a world of Republicons or Libertarians, but
rhett o rick
Jan 2016
#52
I gave up, it's not worth disussing anything with someone who advocates survival of the fittest.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#138
The system runs on money-if the damn system makes it impossible to be of monetary worth to those
Stargazer99
Jan 2016
#113
Isn't the logical thing, then, to be pushing for greater benefits and not higher mandated wages?
Zynx
Jan 2016
#153
If people want to bleat on and piss/moan over "if 15 why not 20" then fine, make it 20.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#14
Apparently if they have to pay workers too much, McDonalds will pack up and sell their burgers to us
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#140
And then we'll have to give the hordes of unemployed moochers welfare or they'll riot.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#141
I keep hearing this stuff about how Sanders supporters are all soooper-seekrit libertarians
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2016
#27
I'm more interested in a minimum living wage, so something like this...
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Jan 2016
#28
because mississippi and the rest of the fuckwad bullshit rightwing hellholes would have no min.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2016
#148
Adjusted for purchasing power, because Australia has a higher cost of living, it's around $11.14.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#160
I think we've all seen the graph of stagnant wage compared to relative corporate growth...
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2016
#62
ideally, it should be staggered according to cost of living in different
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2016
#91
I think we should go for $15, since by the time we actually get the chance to do this
Starry Messenger
Jan 2016
#122
In 1972 this was actually supported by both President Nixon and by Senator
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2016
#135
$22 an hour? Every single job has to be paid essentially at least $45,000 a year?
Zynx
Jan 2016
#156
Exactly. The guaranteed minimum income has always been proposed as a barebones safety net.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#176
If you're willing to settle for $12, you should start the negotiation at $15 or higher.
Scuba
Jan 2016
#142
So all increases to productivity should go to sit-on-their-ass-and-do-nothing upper management?
99Forever
Jan 2016
#159
No, but the basic point is that you can't provide a uniform adjustment based on productivity.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#161
I'm not. I do work in public policy analysis and I'm concerned about overly simplistic policies.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#181
Wait...what? If an industry goes under because its products aren't desired anymore, that's one thing
Zynx
Jan 2016
#189
Personally insulting people who want the same end goal as you but disagree slightly on means...
Zynx
Jan 2016
#199
You've got me. I'm part of a vast conspiracy to oppress the working and middle class.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#226
This is essentially conservative propaganda and I wish I weren't seeing it on DU. nt
Todays_Illusion
Jan 2016
#171
Respectfully, raising the minimum wage to the highest in the world is not conservative propaganda.
BlueCheese
Jan 2016
#173
Increasing it to the vicinity of $12 is deemed unacceptable. That's a 65.5% increase.
Zynx
Jan 2016
#229
Yes, and that didn't happen. She was asking for a nominal increase and couldn't get that.
EndElectoral
Jan 2016
#197