2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Planned Parenthood Stands with You [View all]davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)It shouldn't be that big of a deal, either (their choice of candidate). What it comes down to is who the people are going to vote for. Sanders is not an enemy to planned parenthood - far from it, most of us Sanders supporters ARE standing up for equal rights - and have, for quite some time, as has the candidate himself.
Why it's necessary that we bicker about this I don't know. Neither Sanders, nor his campaign, nor any of his supporters (that I am familiar with) are joining the gop war on women. Also, none of these groups or individuals are known to be opponents of equal rights. Never has this been so with Sanders, the implications of this OP are inaccurate. Is there a small number of Sanders supporters who might be opponents to Planned Parenthood and equal rights? Sure. There's likely a number of Clinton supporters who are the same. This does not, in any way, indicate blame or justified accusation against either of our candidates.
Progressives are not making a target of planned parenthood - that is not what progressives do. Some may argue with the endorsement of Clinton - but there is no movement among legitimate progressives or liberals (Sanders supporters or otherwise) to denounce, destroy, defund, or otherwise harm Planned Parenthood.
Not sure why I'm making this post, I guess I'm just tired of the back and forth. We're on the same side. Whether Clinton wins the nomination or Sanders wins the nomination - both of these candidates support planned parenthood and equal rights. Their supporters, in supporting them (and in, ultimately, voting for them) are also supporting these worthy causes.
I will vote for who ever wins the nomination among the democrats. I support Sanders - AND planned parenthood - AND equal rights for our own people and for the human race. I am not an enemy to Clinton, or any of the worthy causes she supports.
Why on earth should it be otherwise? Can't we just stick with the facts? Let's look at the voting records, at the policies, at their actions in the past. What have these two candidates done? Why should we vote for one over another? Both are supportive of many progressive and worthy causes. Either one would be immensely, stupendously, wonderfully, incredibly better than any one of these clowns on the right.
We should unite - at least in the fact that we're on the same side, that we have two worthy candidates, either one being worthy of our votes, that preventing a Trump (or Rubio, or Cruz, or/insert moron) Presidency is pretty damned important.
Our enemies are on the other side of the darn fence. Our ideological opponents would happily defund planned parenthood, work to undo years of work on the civil rights front, shut down progressive and liberal movements, eliminate funding for education, for infrastructure, for welfare, for food for the needy, for so many damned things. These are the people we should be worrying about, rather than pointing fingers at each other.
I don't see why I can't support all of these things at once and still be a Sanders supporter. I don't see why we can't all do these things, regardless of our preferred nominee.
We'll win or lose together. Frankly, I believe we're going to win. We are more on the side of progress, of right, of compassion for humanity.. than we have ever been before. This is a movement, an awakening, a gradual enlightening of Americans and of the people of the world that shows me... progress is being made - and will continue to be made. We can only be defeated, ultimately, if we defeat ourselves.