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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 02:04 PM

42. Whereas MoveOn has always been suspect for so many of us activists:

It is Top Down only - they email you, you cannot email them. I consider trying to "find" a young man I knew who worked for the Sierra Club in Calif.

Apparently JR now works for MoveOn on the East Coast. I get "MoveON" emails from him continually. But it is not possible to reply in emails to anyone from MoveOn who emails you. His personal info has been scrubbed from many usual search engines. I can find people who I last saw in May of 1965 using zabasearch, but if someone I knew six years ago joins MoveOn as a paid "activist" I can't contact them.

Recently, The Onion did a rather hilarious write up on how silly this top down approach happens to be.

In 2004, Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson both tried extremely hard to get MoveOn to advance information about the hackable election machinery. MoveOn,unlike Keith Olbermann and Randy Roades of Air America Radio station, was absolutely aghast at the notion that people would waste their time on the idea that our voting mechanisms are compromised.

Had MoveOn "moved" on this idea, perhaps the election of Nov 2004 would have turned out differently. Just maybe if MoveOn had really been liberal and idealistic, Carville's sway over John Kerry would have been neutralized by the facts that there was ample and quite serious indications of major election theft of votes. But MoveOn either lacked the imagination to do this, or simply was NOT SUPPOSED TO help activists work on this important cause.

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