History of Feminism

redqueen

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24. "If you've been on the planet longer than 15 years and haven't figured some of this out ...

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:47 PM

Jan 2013

for yourself, then you're a dumbass or a sexist."

Yep. But the vast majority *do* grow up unconsciously absorbing misogynist messages. We all grow up immersed in misogyny... a few are made aware... but most are not. And until *very* recently, we have been backsliding.

Things seem to be turning around these last few months... but I think like CrispyQ says below, we should try more than ever to reach out and educate those who aren't yet aware, instead of immediately assuming they're beyond hope or malicious, anti-feminist disruptors.

Of course, many are exactly that, but we are used to them and can just go back to ignoring them once they've shown their true colors by their willingness or refusal to engage in a thoughtful manner.

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Silencing tactics [View all] redqueen Jan 2013 OP

My least favorite gollygee Jan 2013 #1

I'd say the first one you mentioned reminds me more of the 'more important issues' tactic... redqueen Jan 2013 #2

Oh I see gollygee Jan 2013 #3

Yep. It is SO common. redqueen Jan 2013 #4

my father in law was the first to give me.... women have it worse. told him, irrelevant, i am seabeyond Jan 2013 #13

Also famously used by Richard Dawkins... redqueen Jan 2013 #21

You're a "man basher"... always perks me up when I see that one. boston bean Jan 2013 #5

Oh yes, thank you! redqueen Jan 2013 #7

hate sex, prude, frigid, anti sex, jealous, ugly, hag... nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #14

UGH! Makes me nuts! You always know you're dealing with a brick wall when you hear this. Squinch Jan 2013 #29

They used to tell us there were more important issues, like the Vietnam War LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #6

Yes, there is always a more imporrant issue... redqueen Jan 2013 #9

How about these. Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #8

Yes, very common... redqueen Jan 2013 #10

"But what about the men?!!? Who will think of the men?!??" Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #11

further than that. hey you feminists... someone is being mean to men, if you were really seabeyond Jan 2013 #15

Hah, yeah... redqueen Jan 2013 #22

you talk to me too mean/b/like a man, not like a man, not feminine enough, more with sugar than.... seabeyond Jan 2013 #12

Ah, yes... the ever popular 'tone' argument. redqueen Jan 2013 #23

And the related: "You are being shrill." Squinch Jan 2013 #30

Oh yes, that's very popular. redqueen Jan 2013 #31

God almighty. Forgot that one. Makes my blood boil. nt Nay Jan 2013 #35

men cant help it. biological/dna. the monkeys did it/evo psych, are you anti science? nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #16

"You're too sensitive." Hate that one. But "what about the menz?" REALLY pisses me off. Nay Jan 2013 #17

which takes me to... it is a joke, liten up. seabeyond Jan 2013 #18

"If you've been on the planet longer than 15 years and haven't figured some of this out ... redqueen Jan 2013 #24

Great list. I think you covered every point. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #19

You know what? I think one simple response to men who say some of these things is "IT'S NOT Nay Jan 2013 #20

You can scream it till you're blue in the face... redqueen Jan 2013 #26

Exactly! redqueen Jan 2013 #25

I find the "could be worse" argument especially obnoxious. Deep13 Jan 2013 #27

It is especially egregious from liberals... redqueen Jan 2013 #28

Right. Our standards should be a little higher than that! Deep13 Jan 2013 #33

That's a good list ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #32

The geek feminism wiki has a nice list of silencing tactics He loved Big Brother Jan 2013 #34

That's a wonderful list! Thank you. nt Nay Jan 2013 #36

I will be reviewing that over the weekend. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #37