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Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
7. isn't gender rights basically a subset of individual rights?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:25 AM
Mar 2013

and although many individuals are not treated respectfully shouldn't we as individuals strive to make it that way for all?

or am I missing something here?

Double Heh! k&r Little Star Mar 2013 #1
I am so glad you posted this. MadrasT Mar 2013 #2
What a wonderful straw man argument. Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #3
Oh, the irony of this statement being made in a feminist forum... MadrasT Mar 2013 #4
Vinny has been blocked. It is disruptive to say feminists, in a safe haven group, boston bean Mar 2013 #5
hah, and we're "threatening" him? that's delusional n/t zazen Mar 2013 #36
Really good read. boston bean Mar 2013 #6
"there are so many strains of feminism" Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #26
This: CrispyQ Mar 2013 #38
That's how they defeated the ERA before... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #43
isn't gender rights basically a subset of individual rights? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #7
I think you may be missing something here... boston bean Mar 2013 #8
that would be the ideal ... yes, that all are treated equally as humans Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #10
Of course, TA. boston bean Mar 2013 #12
yes. the class warfare even if there was a classless society gender issues could still exist. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #13
Well put! haikugal Mar 2013 #27
I love the Freddy Krueger analogy. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #50
We have generations of conditioning to reverse. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #39
yes, I know. but, if we (all of us) treat everyone (all of us) with respect then Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #41
that really becomes the problem hfojvt Mar 2013 #9
What power does your examples hold over you? Do you make less on the dollar? boston bean Mar 2013 #15
that's the typical justification for bigotry hfojvt Mar 2013 #21
Can you make the distinction please. boston bean Mar 2013 #22
It's not a matter of "not-persecuted"--it's a matter of persecution by those not-persecuted... Moonwalk Mar 2013 #35
That's not what it says BainsBane Apr 2013 #79
that's a whole lot of verbiage hfojvt Apr 2013 #84
I didn't say that BainsBane Apr 2013 #87
see this BainsBane Apr 2013 #80
Misandry is OK if $ and power are not involved? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #30
No, the point is misandry is not institutional. boston bean Mar 2013 #31
So the answer is "yes." Heard it for decades. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #37
the answer is no. nt boston bean Mar 2013 #44
Did you really just say that feminism (in general) is not about social justice? nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #51
in what way is it absurd? hfojvt Mar 2013 #56
Are you standing on your head? DURHAM D Mar 2013 #57
"I do it again and again" hfojvt Apr 2013 #68
so, your suggestion is it not be a womans movement but a class movement. yes. this has been seabeyond Mar 2013 #58
no, the OP claimed that it already was hfojvt Apr 2013 #67
you then believe that the Civil Rights movement were not in fact about Social Justice? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #69
it was and it wasn't hfojvt Apr 2013 #81
What the FUCK is it about this issue? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #11
No one is bored with their lives. boston bean Mar 2013 #14
Another disruptor MadrasT Mar 2013 #17
Yeah. Excuse me for getting in the way of ANOTHER brain dead thread Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #19
Your posts here certainly fit the "brain dead" description. boston bean Mar 2013 #20
Discussion? Endless gender bashing qualifies as discussion? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #23
How bored one must be to shit in threads they claim are too "boring" n/t MadrasT Mar 2013 #24
What qualifies to you as interesting? ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #34
I've noticed that many idiots purposefully confuse the words "bashing" with LanternWaste Apr 2013 #73
what is it latern, besides the two glasses of wine. i talk the issue. and seabeyond Apr 2013 #74
Victim-hood excringency Mar 2013 #16
Thank you for sharing your experience MadrasT Mar 2013 #18
+1 ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #32
this is such a very good post. i could feel the anger and was right there wiht you seabeyond Mar 2013 #40
Thank you for an outstanding post. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #42
worthy of its own thread Skittles Mar 2013 #55
it's not as if we haven't seen it patiently explained a dozen times lately.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #76
That suggestion, that we should 'sell' feminism to men in a way that feeds their fucking egos, redqueen Apr 2013 #82
not your mama. i say repeatedly and having my share of being a mama, know when someone is demanding seabeyond Apr 2013 #83
hell yes, it makes me crazy too bettyellen Apr 2013 #91
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #92
Personally, I'm tired of the whole fight, caseymoz Mar 2013 #25
I think you're taking things more personally than you need to. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #52
And I think many men do caseymoz Mar 2013 #54
Ha, she doesn't realize that she, herself, is a radical feminist. redqueen Mar 2013 #28
Yeah, that is the one thing that stuck out to me. boston bean Mar 2013 #29
It's a way of reaching out unfortunately ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #33
Thoughts. kjones Mar 2013 #45
Here is the issue in a nutshell. boston bean Mar 2013 #46
Perhaps a bullet point list like that could be pinned to the top of this group. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #47
lol. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #48
No, really. redqueen Mar 2013 #49
That's really juvenile. kjones Apr 2013 #70
I wasn't referring to your post in that reply. redqueen Apr 2013 #72
Ok then kjones Apr 2013 #88
That's a great list of ideas and ideals. Lays out just about everything perfectly. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #53
You are absolutely right. kjones Apr 2013 #71
have you read cnn and all the other comments section talking about american women, buy foreign, seabeyond Apr 2013 #75
What I said. kjones Apr 2013 #89
i am particular on using either misogyny or sexism. and try to keep it honest. my point seabeyond Apr 2013 #90
Feminists are not misandrists, but misandrists can mis-identify, mistakenly or otherwise, as feminis patrice Apr 2013 #77
That's interesting and smart ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #85
I'm for whatever works to be as honestly INCLUSIVE of women as possible. It might also help if patrice Apr 2013 #86
I don't think any feminists I've ever met hated men as a whole. Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #59
ya. the problem. speak up and watch the shit fly, lol. i wanted to say, i do not know i have hated seabeyond Mar 2013 #60
I posted a thread in gd a few weeks back voicing my thoughts on the guys here that act that way. Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #61
lol lol. when i saw your name, i could nto remember the specific but i remembered seabeyond Mar 2013 #62
I can look through my posts Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #63
yes. i remember. you and other men spoke up. and still, the guys and their supporters continued a seabeyond Mar 2013 #64
I was bothered to see how many hours just rejected the entire discussion. Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #65
my bad. me too. and it took me years to see thru the haze of continually being told by liberal men seabeyond Mar 2013 #66
There are women who don't care for men as a group, just as there are African-Americans who geek tragedy Apr 2013 #78
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