History of Feminism

boston bean

(36,218 posts) Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:43 PM Dec 2013

What's the tell that lets you know you are dealing with an MRA? [View all]

Number one for me is denial of the patriarchy.

Let's make a list. Please add one at a time per post, put in subject line if it fits.

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What's the tell that lets you know you are dealing with an MRA? [View all] boston bean Dec 2013 OP

Basically insisting that men are oppressed BainsBane Dec 2013 #1

Men actually are oppressed--just not for being men eridani Dec 2013 #94

This idea always compels me to ask: xulamaude Dec 2013 #97

But there's no such thing as patriarchy, right? eridani Dec 2013 #106

nice guy argument. expecting hot gal and denied. seabeyond Dec 2013 #2

was that one per post? lol boston bean Dec 2013 #3

sorry. i am getting bad not reading all a post. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #4

I was just kidding around! boston bean Dec 2013 #24

lol. so you do not want them all in individual posts? cause i can keep going. lmao seabeyond Dec 2013 #26

false rape claim 45-75% seabeyond Dec 2013 #5

rape decline 80% in last two decades. now hearing 60% seabeyond Dec 2013 #6

patronizing. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #7

using the tone card. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #8

Pardon the question, what is MRA? Demeter Dec 2013 #9

men right activist that is spreading pretty hard, fast. a lot of the net, but getting into RL. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #10

The response posted is not viewable by me...I have that person on Ignore Demeter Dec 2013 #22

lmfao. you have me on ignore and you come in here for a chat on mra. lol. so seabeyond Dec 2013 #27

How lovely for you. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #28

Actually, most of the posts on this thread are blocked by my Ignore list Demeter Dec 2013 #29

Which of course thoroughly explains why you are here in the first place. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #30

I have to disagree with you there. I have learned a lot from the members of this group. Squinch Dec 2013 #69

Good ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #83

Ooooo lookie! It's all about Demeter now!! xulamaude Dec 2013 #75

You are right, I'll fix that immediately Demeter Dec 2013 #77

Just saying that all of the attention turned to you xulamaude Dec 2013 #84

to answer you question - MRA = Men's Rights Activist (male or female) Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #32

Thanks! Demeter Dec 2013 #34

yw, Demeter. Good to see you in here. I value the contributions you make in our Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #35

I think maybe Demeter is in the wrong group. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #42

me thinks... lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #44

yes, I saw the post. ugh. it was not "nice". I agree. Trying to give a benefit of doubt here ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #48

All of that may be true, and wouldn't it be nice? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #51

I agree, Sheldon. but, Demeter did not so much as attack as stated the fact that someone is on Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #57

i apprecaite sheldon saying there should be one place, but i demand, INSIST that you always be true seabeyond Dec 2013 #58

thank you, sea. - Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #66

when you friggin have everyone on ignore, how would you expect content. lol. oh my.... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #40

obviously you dont have me on ignore. boston bean Dec 2013 #36

Thanks! Demeter Dec 2013 #37

that would be up to you. boston bean Dec 2013 #39

virgin/whore argument. seabeyond Dec 2013 #11

all women are prostitutes (and they do not use that word) one way or another seabeyond Dec 2013 #12

no rape culture seabeyond Dec 2013 #13

it is biological/dna. evo psych seabeyond Dec 2013 #14

feminists has feminized men seabeyond Dec 2013 #15

I see you had the same idea before I did. nt Deep13 Dec 2013 #54

Yeah, I'm not a meathead but I feel I'm plenty "masculine" despite any feminist influences nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #141

i was thinking about this. watching both boys walk into manhood. one is 19, well on his way. seabeyond Dec 2013 #143

or looking how gender is become more fluid, they are not seeing enough john waynes out there. seabeyond Dec 2013 #144

Other people gaining strength and power doesn't diminish anyone else. The opposite if anything. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #145

feminists want to rule over men seabeyond Dec 2013 #16

feminists are man haters seabeyond Dec 2013 #17

feminists are frigid, prudes, anti sex, jealous, hairy, ugly, fundamentalists, seabeyond Dec 2013 #18

feminists say all men are rapists. seabeyond Dec 2013 #19

women teachers side with girls making it a hostile environment for boys in school. seabeyond Dec 2013 #20

no men elementary teachers cause they are afraid of being accused of pedophilia seabeyond Dec 2013 #21

women have 60% of the wealth seabeyond Dec 2013 #23

women only want rich men to take care of them seabeyond Dec 2013 #25

Well, around DU it seems they spend more time advocating against women than for men. Scuba Dec 2013 #31

the negative energy ... Against Women as opposed to positive energy For Men. yes. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #38

that is a good one. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #41

Well, that's the defining characteristic as I see it here on DU Warpy Dec 2013 #85

Yep etherealtruth Dec 2013 #136

What sea said. All of it. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #33

redq is the one that knows... she can tick them off with articulate, concise thought. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #61

women start the violence more than men or they provoke the man to violence seabeyond Dec 2013 #43

rape laws are picking on mens rights. (for real) seabeyond Dec 2013 #45

feminism is dead. seabeyond Dec 2013 #46

which is a contradicition to feminism is causing all the world ills. but contradictions are thru MR seabeyond Dec 2013 #47

If we are not Third Wave, we are not True Feminists. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #49

close boston bean Dec 2013 #50

yes, Third Wave. Thanks. I will edit my post. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #52

It's funny but I didn't even know about waves until I started reading about it here. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #55

that is why i differeniate the argument from MRA. they probably do not even know. i too, seabeyond Dec 2013 #60

It may not actually be a product xulamaude Dec 2013 #73

can you expand on this, please ... I am not understanding what you are saying: Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #110

RQ says most of what I meant xulamaude Dec 2013 #112

Third Wave is too complicated and schizo. Ugh. Fragments and divides us. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #114

It's interesting that you say that - xulamaude Dec 2013 #115

It is like where racism and sexism intersect, or something. I am not sure I am grasping the Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #116

I'm not familiar with the 4th wave. xulamaude Dec 2013 #118

just what I have read on here. sea has posted about it and here is a link from MadrasT Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #120

ha ha. i just posted the same article. but... i am leaving mine cause it has pictures. lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #122

well then, can you tell me if I am understanding Third Wave -at all- ?? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #125

yes. but my son is home and all he does is talk, lol lol. be back in a moment. all morning seabeyond Dec 2013 #126

Thanks :) nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #123

yw ... and now it is here With Pictures! Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #127

The fourth wave of feminism: meet the rebel women seabeyond Dec 2013 #121

Thanks Sea :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #124

I get them confused. Deep13 Dec 2013 #56

1st wave the vote. for the most part. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #62

So that brings us to the 1920s in this country. Deep13 Dec 2013 #67

correct. though, they have pretty much turned their back on 3rd wave. they say it is a fail. seabeyond Dec 2013 #68

i almost put that. but.. why i did not is it is not so much the MRA argument but progressive male seabeyond Dec 2013 #59

really? interesting ... an MRA would not like a third wave feminist? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #76

i have not heard of any mra distinguish between the two, nor suggest a preference for any seabeyond Dec 2013 #78

yes, I have seen that cartoon, funny. yes. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #89

It depends on how you're using "third wave feminist" really. redqueen Dec 2013 #93

thank you for clarifying Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #111

society has been feminized--and not in a good way. Deep13 Dec 2013 #53

men should not have to pay child support seabeyond Dec 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Dec 2013 #64

A friend of mine from high school says that very thing he's on his sixth marriage and has seven kids LanternWaste Dec 2013 #117

ya know. i was just having a conversation with son about how... if listening to within, seabeyond Dec 2013 #119

men should have a say if a fetus is kept or not seabeyond Dec 2013 #65

stating "no mra's on du" niyad Dec 2013 #70

that one really made me laugh out loud. and... seabeyond Dec 2013 #71

"Feminists are the reason men are opting out of marriage" Squinch Dec 2013 #72

follow up... brb seabeyond Dec 2013 #79

Women's "value" declines as they age. redqueen Dec 2013 #80

feminists are why men are opting out of life, live in basment eating cheetos, playing computer games seabeyond Dec 2013 #81

Fewer men are getting college degrees because feminism. redqueen Dec 2013 #82

You can get this on a tee shirt ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #86

Also, manboobz.com has a glossary of MRA terminology redqueen Dec 2013 #88

Hmmm ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #92

evil harpie looks good on you. i go more for badass seabeyond Dec 2013 #95

Well-- in that case ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #96

showing her feminine side. seabeyond Dec 2013 #100

Nice! ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #103

How about xulamaude Dec 2013 #101

I love that movie ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #105

excellent. that is what i metioned above. many of the talking points are contradiction. i like seabeyond Dec 2013 #90

Men have a biological need to have sex with women. redqueen Dec 2013 #87

Men and Women have a need for Companionship Demeter Dec 2013 #98

Inflated vocabulary and syntax - xulamaude Dec 2013 #91

verbose, yes. a wall of text. ugh. --- Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #99

I think there is a conflation of MRA and sexism and misogyny more generally BainsBane Dec 2013 #102

i do not think it is all mra that they put up in defining them. but the arguments they make. seabeyond Dec 2013 #104

I think I have to disagree, these are all arguments MRA's make. boston bean Dec 2013 #107

My take: Not all misogynists are MRAs, but all MRAs are misogynists, redqueen Dec 2013 #130

Obviously untrue statistics gollygee Dec 2013 #108

Women who are bothered by it probably are not the ones being hit on or ogled... Phentex Dec 2013 #109

Ah, yes, the 'you're just jealous' gambit. xulamaude Dec 2013 #113

He don't like how femunists A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #128

ha ha ha ha ha ha. food for thought, huh? actually i was just thinking about that seabeyond Dec 2013 #129

! redqueen Dec 2013 #131

Poor use of evopsych to mansplain something to us of inferior intellect. Dash87 Dec 2013 #132

'Women only like rich guys and assholes.' Dash87 Dec 2013 #133

you are into this. you know what really gets me about this argument? they talk "hawt" seabeyond Dec 2013 #134

That I hate men and sex. Texasgal Dec 2013 #135

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #137

Yup.. Agschmid Dec 2013 #138

Oh yes cinnabonbon Dec 2013 #139

oh, the friend zone is something we were missing. and fedora? i heard something about that seabeyond Dec 2013 #140

Saying that feminist organizations skew stats to pump up donations. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #142