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Gravitycollapse

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Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:34 PM Mar 2014

A naked human body is a naked human body, not a sex object. [View all]

Thus the argument that women shouldn't wear revealing clothing if they don't want to be sexually harassed rests on an unsound premise. That premise is that women must hide their bodies because men can't control themselves.

A naked body is not sexualized until someone sexualizes it. For instance, doctors and nurses see naked bodies all of the time without stress because the body is not conceptualized as a sex object in the context of their interactions.

Whether or not the naked or near naked female body is actually sexualized in the present is not a sound argument that naked or near naked female bodies should be sexualized. A lot of the MRA crowd seems to confuse the two and accuse us of denying reality when in actuality we are saying reality needs to change.

We are intelligent creatures. If women are able to control themselves around naked or nearly naked men, men can do the same for women.

Despite arguments to the contrary, not being encouraged to publicly sexualize every woman wearing form fitting clothing is not an affront to anyone's sexual rights.

And if you argue that women should simply cover themselves up, you are a part of the vicious problem.

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I never understood the juxtaposition of "men are in charge" and "men can't control themselves". uppityperson Mar 2014 #1
I've also never understood the fragility of these person's sexualities. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #2
if humans all went naked most of these issues would disappear IMO nt msongs Mar 2014 #3
The fabrication of the human body as taboo is what has driven us to such instability. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #4
then why all the harrumphing over the si swimsuit issue? Doctor_J Mar 2014 #5
Because it turns the naked body of a female into a sexual object to be consumed by mass strangers. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #8
your op is perfectly clear in and of itself, but is in direct Doctor_J Mar 2014 #16
Your argument essentially amounts to "women want it." Which is deplorable. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #17
If were not sexually attracted to each other, we would be extinct liberal N proud Mar 2014 #6
All objectification is demeaning. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #7
I realize it is used by ignorant people in regard to homosexuality liberal N proud Mar 2014 #9
No, you're acting exactly like those ignorant people... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #11
It is what it is! liberal N proud Mar 2014 #13
Would you like some soap for that hand wash? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #15
Wonderful, yet unsupported bumper-sticker you recited there, little fella! LanternWaste Mar 2014 #45
Huh? liberal N proud Mar 2014 #46
But, but! xfundy Mar 2014 #10
Here pipoman Mar 2014 #12
I guess I was being too subtle. I'm saying men can control themselves but choose not to. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #14
I saw what you said pipoman Mar 2014 #18
No, of course not. But the difference in conduct between the sexes is staggering. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #19
so why is it fair to attribute the acts of some pipoman Mar 2014 #20
This is a question I have often asked. davidthegnome Mar 2014 #25
I think perhaps that F4lconF16 Mar 2014 #26
seems pretty easy to put in a reference like pipoman Mar 2014 #27
If you deny yourself contextual inference, interpretation and textual criticism... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #44
Yep. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #28
Read post 12 and 14 and explain how anyone pipoman Mar 2014 #31
I'm sorry, you lost me here... A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #32
fat fingers on a tiny keyboard. .fixed it. . pipoman Mar 2014 #33
Maybe it's my turn in the will to misunderstand chair A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #34
+1 F4lconF16 Mar 2014 #42
I've heard if you keep asking a question, it's premise eventually becomes true. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #35
And dodging a question after several inquiries pipoman Mar 2014 #36
I've literally answered your stupid question in this very thread. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #37
If 14 is the answer pipoman Mar 2014 #38
Two things... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #39
Misogyny and misandry have no bounds.. pipoman Mar 2014 #40
Would you like to expound on that? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #41
The sexuality of a naked body is in the eye of the beholder Gman Mar 2014 #21
Why are we the only primate to be naked? ErikJ Mar 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #24
K&R Heathen57 Mar 2014 #23
Hmmm . . . cer7711 Mar 2014 #29
And when you say "community-based sex play" you mean what exactly? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #43
I'm having a lot of fun rereading Barbara Walker's "encyclopedia" ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #30
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