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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:35 AM

5. Unfortunately, that is what the ‹bermensch can be reduced to

According to Nietzsche, if I am the ‹bermensch and you are the Untermensch and you commit an act which injures me, you are acting immorally. However, if I commit the exact same act, but it benefits me, I am acting morally. Any ethicist who says that the morality of an act depends on who the actor is can reasonably be said to be spouting crap.

No moral values apply to the ‹bermensch. The desires of the Untermenschen mean nothing at all. If the ‹bermensch wants to murder Untermenschen in job lots, that is just fine. The Nazis put that idea into practice -- leaving murder, torture, looting and general immorality as their legacy. It can certainly be argued that the Nazis misused this idea. However, it is the basis for the train of thought that led to Buchenwald, and Nietzsche cannot be absolved.

The basic problem I have with Nietzsche is that Nietzsche's denial of ethics means that anyone can call himself an ‹bermensch and "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". So there is not just a direct line from Nietzsche to Josef Mengele, but a direct line to Aleister Crowley as well.

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