Philosophy

Fortinbras Armstrong

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48. I think I see our basic problem

Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:49 AM

Dec 2014

You say that morality is based upon emotion. No, while it is apparently innate, it is quite rational. Children are not moral before they are rational. Young children want to have their desires satisfied immediately, and older children and adults who act that way are considered childish. We learn that it is right to share, to put off immediate gratification for longer term goals, and that we are not the center of the universe. We learn and we think. People DO think about their morals, and we consider what actions are or are not moral depending on our training and our thoughts. Morality IS rational. Certainly, rationalism forms a major part of my moral system.

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Do rights exist? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 OP

Rights, organizations (including governments), human laws, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #1

Can I infer... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #3

Yes for laws and fairness, but no for love and anger. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #5

I'm unable to understand what system you have... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #6

Ha! ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #13

So then... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #14

I don't think so. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #15

I don't think so. delrem Nov 2013 #22

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Your subject line isn't true. bye. delrem Nov 2014 #31

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Rights are attributes of people. rrneck Aug 2013 #2

I'm having a bit of confusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #4

I would rephrase if I could think of a better way to say it. rrneck Aug 2013 #7

I guess I'm having some trouble with this: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #10

Natural and legal rights rrneck Aug 2013 #11

I'm good with that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #12

I'd say it depends very much on which school of ethics you subscribe to. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #8

I'd suggest that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #9

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"Whether you know it or not, among the French and Germans, right means law." Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2014 #33

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For at least the second time, THE PARAGRAPH IS YOUR FRIEND. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2014 #36

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OK, I shall introduce myself to you. Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #38

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I'm afraid I have some major disagreements with you. Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #40

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I used an idiom that I'm sure you've heard at least a thousand times Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #44

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Being polite is not cant, nor is it being dishonest. Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #46

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I think I see our basic problem Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2014 #48

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I believe that the obligation... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #17

Don't human rights have to be recognized and asserted to exist? delrem Sep 2013 #18

re: "...the right for an individual to be treated equally under the rule of law." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2013 #19

Correct. It's an *obligation* of gov't. delrem Nov 2013 #20

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I really appreciate DU. n/t delrem Nov 2013 #23

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Do rights exist? CloptonHavers Feb 2014 #24

After some reading... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #25

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Rights are Subordinated to... PavelKO Oct 2016 #50

As is generally said, 'The winners get to write history.' discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #51

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