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Dems to Win

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33. Just returned from running errands while wearing my Bernie Tshirt
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

From my informal sample, California is still Berning!

One couple started up a conversation, and we talked a bit about Hillary, and I said "I have my differences with Hillary, starting with the Iraq War vote, but I have a viscerally strong opposition to Bill Clinton returning to the White House." The woman crossed her hands on her chest and said "Thank you. I can't stand the idea of him prowling the halls again!"

So there's at least one woman who agrees with me that Bill as First Gentleman is a terrible idea.

I was very involved in health care reform in the 90s. When Bill was elected with a Democratic Congress, I thought we were going to get universal health care! I watched and read everything I could about Hillary's Health Care Task Force, and was bitterly disappointed that she didn't seem serious in actually reforming health care. She assembled a secret task force of 500 insurance company execs and academics (NO single payer advocates), kinda-sorta developed a broad outline of something called 'managed competition,' leaked some details to the press, made lots of speeches about how we really needed health reform, but didn't develop a detailed plan or a bill for Congress to vote on. She made some enemies among Democrats on key committees (Cong. Jim Cooper) and Congress floundered on even writing a bill to enact what she now calls 'HillaryCare.' No vote was taken on a health reform plan, not even in committee.

Then, after 2 years of no progress in Congress on health care, the Republicans took over Congress in the mid-terms, and the entire subject was dead. So much for HillaryCare.

It was a long wait for the ACA, which is still far from Universal Health Care.

I don't dislike Hillary as a person, but I've never seen her as a person who gets things done. She failed to get done something my family really needed, and that we really expected would happen in 1993.

Huma? Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #1
Willy, the Presumptive First Bro snagglepuss May 2016 #5
I didn't see it Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #6
She is determined to put America through all this again... grasswire May 2016 #2
Well said. The whole country is so fricking sick of them. Go away!!!!!! n/t Peregrine Took May 2016 #9
She's Bill's moral compass without his charm. QC May 2016 #14
More like his enabler. arikara May 2016 #19
If this was about Epstein, the rw is sitting on that story. I guarantee the moment Hillary is (if) jillan May 2016 #3
Who's Epstein? n/t FourScore May 2016 #8
Disgusting BlueNoMatterWho May 2016 #12
why wouldnt it be true? Baobab May 2016 #20
The pedophile billionaire Nanjeanne May 2016 #22
He is a billionaire Pedophile... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #25
Newsweek: EFFREY EPSTEIN: THE SEX OFFENDER WHO MIXES WITH PRINCES AND PREMIERS snagglepuss May 2016 #29
I didnt have time to read but there is a 2 page snagglepuss May 2016 #10
Absolutely. Nyan May 2016 #11
Google BlueNoMatterWho May 2016 #4
Is this it? hedda_foil May 2016 #7
Ooops - that's not the Epstein story. That looks like the same ole crap from the 90s. jillan May 2016 #17
36 women? NJCher May 2016 #21
Yep snagglepuss May 2016 #30
I saw 3 people reading that in line the other day. pinskinny May 2016 #35
How dare she?? grasswire May 2016 #13
Why did you guys wait till now okieinpain May 2016 #15
Not again. winter is coming May 2016 #16
they have only just begun grasswire May 2016 #18
"blackmail and intimidation" LiberalElite May 2016 #23
Just think, if she's elected, THIS and more will be nc4bo May 2016 #24
and they think Bush made us look bad -- oldandhappy May 2016 #26
The NE has two big wins: OJ Simpson and John Edwards. Zen Democrat May 2016 #27
Electing Bill Clinton as First Gent should not be a feminist goal Dems to Win May 2016 #28
I wonder about that, too. potone May 2016 #31
Just returned from running errands while wearing my Bernie Tshirt Dems to Win May 2016 #33
It's gonna be a loonnng election year!!! LongTomH May 2016 #32
She will be on the cover of all the rag mags at the checkout line every week, that is a given. pinskinny May 2016 #34
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