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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
21. Nobody has to post on DU. We are here to discuss issues.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:44 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie is the best candidate. There really isn't any argument to the contrary other than to tell Bernie supporters to shut up. I'm not being divisive. I am trying to unite Democrats around Bernie's candidacy. That's what I am supposed to do as a Bernie supporter. Hillary is not yet the candidate. Bernie will be the candidate. That is my opinion.

And that is essentially what all the posts about dividing Democrats are about. The Hillary supporters don't have good arguments for backing their candidate, so instead of arguing in favor of their candidate, they tell us Bernie supporters to shut up.

I was talking about the issue, not about hair or about hating Hillary.

I talk about the issues and I am told that is divisive. The only reason that it feels divisive is that my arguments are strong. They are the believable. They are well thought out. Bernie is right on the issues. Hillary is wrong on the issues -- or at least on the ones they disagree on, and Hillary supporters can't really explain why anyone should vote for Hillary based on the issues rather than for Bernie based on the issues.

It is not divisive to write on a discussion website like DU which candidate I support and why.

Bernie wants us to decide on the issues. I'm talking about the issues.

But that is not enough for me as a voters.

The candidates should stick to the issues and not use negative ads. But we voters will inevitably decide in part on how we think a candidate will represent our side in the general election. I think that Bernie is more capable of winning.

So, my posts are not intended to be divisive.

But the primaries are inevitably about making a decision. We each only get to vote for one candidate. Voters who come here need to make that decision. No one comes here to read about the Kardashians. They come here because they want to read about politics.

The only reason Hillary supporters object to Bernie supporters pointing to Bernie's strengths is that deep in their hearts, they know they should vote for Bernie, but they feel emotionally committed to Hillary. The Hillary supporters need to rethink the issue. Bernie is clearly the right candidate for this time. That's all there is to it.

No. I'm not being divisive. I am trying to unite the Democratic Party around our best candidate: Bernie Sanders.

The stark differences [View all] SHRED Aug 2015 OP
I've posted this a few times lately. It should probably be pinned Doctor_J Aug 2015 #1
more stark differences - the H-1b visa/tech outsourcing issue HFRN Aug 2015 #2
This is extremely important a2liberal Aug 2015 #18
' I'm actually of the ethnicity that a lot of the H1Bs ' HFRN Aug 2015 #33
Yup! (nt) a2liberal Aug 2015 #53
I second that. Bill Clinton 'reauthorized the H1-B Visa bill in his last term. n/t whathehell Aug 2015 #52
H1B workers are being used to drive down the wages of american IT workers peacebird Aug 2015 #57
Number one issue for me abelenkpe Aug 2015 #59
Wow DonaldChump Aug 2015 #3
Try to spin that. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #4
You want stark differences? longship Aug 2015 #5
It isn't infighting. We have to decide which candidate will represent us in the general election. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #7
How does tearing down one candidate raise another? longship Aug 2015 #9
Pointing out where the candidates stand on the issues and stating that you prefer one or the JDPriestly Aug 2015 #10
But this kind of stuff makes DU suck. longship Aug 2015 #13
Uhm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #16
For one thing, I am not sure this chart is even true. longship Aug 2015 #20
Well there is this article that includes a few citations... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #23
The question is... longship Aug 2015 #28
I don't pretend anything. kenfrequed Aug 2015 #42
"I am not accusing you of this" longship Aug 2015 #43
Take what you will of it kenfrequed Aug 2015 #50
Here you go:: 2000 Senate race. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #25
Pshaw! 15 years ago! I doubt that she would say the same today. longship Aug 2015 #31
You must have missed some of the past Republican campaigns where they accused Democrats JDPriestly Aug 2015 #35
Please, not the flip flop card. longship Aug 2015 #38
It isn't intraparty friction. It is the process of picking a candidate. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #41
I have no bone to pick with you, JD. longship Aug 2015 #47
It seems difficult, because we Bernie supporters are trying to right the "long ship," the wide ship JDPriestly Aug 2015 #51
I hate third way. longship Aug 2015 #55
There is absolutely nothing on this chart that the Rs do not already know. jwirr Aug 2015 #37
Nobody has to post on DU. We are here to discuss issues. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #21
No, you are being very thoughtful. longship Aug 2015 #36
Exactly what criteria do you use to decide what candidate you are going jwirr Aug 2015 #32
Well, many things. longship Aug 2015 #39
This happened in 2008 also. The difference I see between the infighting jwirr Aug 2015 #45
Thanks, jwirr. longship Aug 2015 #49
Uh, why is posting a list of a candidates positions "tearing down"? Dawgs Aug 2015 #12
Exactly! SHRED Aug 2015 #14
Well, just look at the chart. longship Aug 2015 #17
which item in the list is NOT true? ish of the hammer Aug 2015 #29
Here's what you can do. If your not sure it is all true, research it and start an OP debunking it. Autumn Aug 2015 #44
If you don't like what's posted in this group feel free NOT to participate in this group. smokey nj Aug 2015 #58
Well, don't listen to me. Listen to Bernie. longship Aug 2015 #60
Bernie points out that he and Hillary hold different opinions on a number of issues. The chart smokey nj Aug 2015 #61
I am not harassing. longship Aug 2015 #62
Perhaps Rilgin Aug 2015 #65
My sentiments exactly. When disagreement or comparing becomes "infighting" libdem4life Aug 2015 #70
It's not "tearing down", it's stating facts... tex-wyo-dem Aug 2015 #15
Making shit up, don't you mean? longship Aug 2015 #22
Pew references it in 2008 kenfrequed Aug 2015 #24
Here you go smokey nj Aug 2015 #63
Again, in 2000, when she was First Lady. longship Aug 2015 #64
She supported the death penalty as late as 2008 and she hasn't come out in opposition to the death smokey nj Aug 2015 #66
Same as Obama, then. nt longship Aug 2015 #67
Pointing out policy differences between two candidates in a primary is not tearing down anyone. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #19
However, Posting what can only be compared to a Christian Coalition voter guide can. nt longship Aug 2015 #40
precisely! wendylaroux Aug 2015 #54
And who is responsible for that? zeemike Aug 2015 #30
This is the primary. And IMO either candidate will look better beside the jwirr Aug 2015 #34
I don't think she supports Keystone. JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #6
She was in the State Department when the Keystone was being negotiated. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #8
All of that may be true, JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #11
If she were against the XL Pipeline, she would not hesitate to say so. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27
She might be taking their money, JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #46
I don't hate Hillary. But I do think she is for the pipeline. We shall see. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #69
refusing to state a position on it is different from not supporting it. nashville_brook Aug 2015 #68
Very good post. Please post it regularly. nt ladjf Aug 2015 #26
You beat me to it. SoapBox Aug 2015 #48
Good grief, I didn't know she supported border fence legislation. Zorra Aug 2015 #56
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