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In reply to the discussion: Earlier today a DU regular started a thread about Bernie Sanders and "Open Borders". [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)24. Yes, I found the praise for his policies from nationalist anti-immigration conservatives
mentioned interesting.
Thanks for sharing that article. It really shows what those underlying reasons for his immigration positions are.
These parts of the article you shared were particularly interesting:
Roy Beck, the president of NumbersUSA, a group that seeks to dramatically reduce legal and illegal immigration to the United States, said this week that after studying Sanders record and rhetoric, he sees some common ground.
I think in his gut he believes his obligation as president would be to the workers of America, not to the workers of the world, Beck said in an interview.
Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the adamantly pro-life co-chair of Sen. Ted Cruzs presidential campaign who has dismissed global warming as a hoax and repeatedly supported shutting down the federal government, praised Sanders immigration stance several times in August.
I admire Bernies passion and I notice that his immigration position is closer to mine than it is some of the presidential candidates on the Republican side, King said in an interview with an Iowa radio station over this past summer. Hes said Lets take care of American workers. Im all for that.
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But the praise is not accidental. Sanders opposition to the 2007 immigration reform bill and his rhetoric about the effect of immigrant labor on American workers have dismayed immigration activists and liberal allies in the past. He has expressed concern repeatedly over the years that guest workers in the United States depress wages and squeeze Americans out of their jobs.
Joining Sanders in opposing the 2007 bill was the AFL-CIO, the largest coalition of labor unions in the countryas well as staunchly conservative members of Congress like King and advocates like Beck.
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Sanders has pitted immigrants as an obstacle to tackling unemployment on a number of occasions, said Alida Garcia, director of coalitions and policy at the pro-immigrant group FWD.us. Hes evolved on this issue since his campaign launched, but where his prior statements have been troublesome is within his economic framework of welcoming new immigrants to our country..
I think in his gut he believes his obligation as president would be to the workers of America, not to the workers of the world, Beck said in an interview.
Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the adamantly pro-life co-chair of Sen. Ted Cruzs presidential campaign who has dismissed global warming as a hoax and repeatedly supported shutting down the federal government, praised Sanders immigration stance several times in August.
I admire Bernies passion and I notice that his immigration position is closer to mine than it is some of the presidential candidates on the Republican side, King said in an interview with an Iowa radio station over this past summer. Hes said Lets take care of American workers. Im all for that.
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But the praise is not accidental. Sanders opposition to the 2007 immigration reform bill and his rhetoric about the effect of immigrant labor on American workers have dismayed immigration activists and liberal allies in the past. He has expressed concern repeatedly over the years that guest workers in the United States depress wages and squeeze Americans out of their jobs.
Joining Sanders in opposing the 2007 bill was the AFL-CIO, the largest coalition of labor unions in the countryas well as staunchly conservative members of Congress like King and advocates like Beck.
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Sanders has pitted immigrants as an obstacle to tackling unemployment on a number of occasions, said Alida Garcia, director of coalitions and policy at the pro-immigrant group FWD.us. Hes evolved on this issue since his campaign launched, but where his prior statements have been troublesome is within his economic framework of welcoming new immigrants to our country..
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Earlier today a DU regular started a thread about Bernie Sanders and "Open Borders". [View all]
rgbecker
May 2019
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Pretty well. Thanks to your steady stream of posts the thread stayed up for almost 14 hours.
rgbecker
May 2019
#73
You may enjoy the current POTUS and thus the GOP's take on the issue of "Open Borders"
ehrnst
May 2019
#11
Is Bernie wrong to say he's not for open borders? Which Democrats are for open borders?
Autumn
May 2019
#25
It's not my job to tell politicians how to talk. And I have better things to do than waste my
Autumn
May 2019
#56
Why do you think that? Because I pointed out Biden's gaffe and you can't clean that one up?
Autumn
May 2019
#61
To be clear. You seem to be bragging and mocking me, because a quote that you never posted
Autumn
May 2019
#63
You need to look at why and how Trump and his minions use the term open borders .nt
Autumn
May 2019
#71
Well, very recent statements made by Sanders about Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican and South American
ehrnst
May 2019
#7
Yes, I found the praise for his policies from nationalist anti-immigration conservatives
ehrnst
May 2019
#24
Precisely. Why did he single out Vietnam and China and Mexico and Latin America?
dalton99a
May 2019
#10
No statistics were given by Senator Sanders, or reasons as to why he chose those
ehrnst
May 2019
#16
Of Course it is number of immigrants not the rate which effect wages in the country
rgbecker
May 2019
#28
Because he was aware many white Americans view nonwhite immigrants as a threat.
dalton99a
May 2019
#40
Those are also countries/places that are mentioned whenever jobs are outsourced.
ehrnst
May 2019
#43
Some people seem to envision uneducated, impoverished, non-white, non-english speaking masses
ehrnst
May 2019
#15
Sanders has voted against a pathway to citizenship because of guest worker programs.
WeekiWater
May 2019
#14
Sanders' emphasis on immigration as a problem for American workers has gotten him praise
ehrnst
May 2019
#23
What immigration activists felt Sanders' Immigration policy is more detailed than HRC'?
ehrnst
May 2019
#20
You keep accusing me of saying Sanders is racist. Is that what you're left with?
ehrnst
May 2019
#51
If you're going to take the trouble to PM me at 1:00 in the morning to get me to come look at your
ehrnst
May 2019
#44
I was spammed at 1AM as well. I've always found attention-seeking behavior to be annoying.
NurseJackie
May 2019
#47