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brooklynite

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34. To one extent they are...
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 08:54 AM
Jun 2019

...not on ideology, but on not responding to voters' needs. ONe of the reasons Trump won was that established figures in both political parties weren't seen as responsive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I agree. Only one party has continually been wrong. Don't lump us in equally. rusty quoin Jun 2019 #1
He's just stating what people think. That's a good thing. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #2
No, this is false equivalency. And since he doesn't understand this, pnwmom Jun 2019 #5
+100 ancianita Jun 2019 #8
I disagree. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #11
I didn't say that "no Democratic administration has ever failed some Americans." pnwmom Jun 2019 #13
I disagree. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #15
I felt partly "let down" by the Obama administration but.. honest.abe Jun 2019 #37
If I report that you dislike both blue and red t-shirts, I'm just reporting what you dislike. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #42
Here's the problem: "Democratic and Republican administrations letting them down" honest.abe Jun 2019 #43
Again, don't shoot the messenger. A fact is a fact, whether you like it or not. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #44
The fact is there is no equivalence. honest.abe Jun 2019 #45
Shocking you don't understand that reporting a fact is not making it equal to another fact. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #46
+1 Celerity Jun 2019 #49
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+1 Celerity Jun 2019 #48
That is the false equivalency bullshit that some self-identified progressives pushed in 2000 and still_one Jun 2019 #3
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The Supreme Court Mattered. THAT ISN'T BLIND ALLIGBENCE, that the Jill Stein's, Susan Sarandons, still_one Jun 2019 #7
I don't see where anyone called for "blind allegiance". But, Pete's statement at least Atticus Jun 2019 #9
You said that so much better than I did. I also like Mayor Pete, and essentially agree with the OP still_one Jun 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Atticus Jun 2019 #10
smh.. he could have Cha Jun 2019 #12
Yes , he could have and should have, IMO. nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #14
He was wrong to say this.... quickesst Jun 2019 #6
Sounds like his long-time hero Bernie dalton99a Jun 2019 #16
Yes, I hear echoes of that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #18
I thought of that.. not telling Cha Jun 2019 #22
He's telling the truth, and that ought to be Ron Green Jun 2019 #19
Then how is he going to succeed where all the other Dems have failed, from his perspective? pnwmom Jun 2019 #20
I'm sure he recognizes and acknowledges Obama's positive qualities and efforts, but Ron Green Jun 2019 #54
He's got a pretty substantial ego if he thinks his years of being Mayor of a town of 100K in Indiana pnwmom Jun 2019 #55
"Transform" "transformative" betsuni Jun 2019 #21
+1!!! Cha Jun 2019 #23
Obama oversaw the longest streak of private-sector job creation on record. Trump's May job growth is Cha Jun 2019 #24
I have no idea why so many people don't know that when Democrats are in charge the betsuni Jun 2019 #25
He gives it away at the end of the clip lapfog_1 Jun 2019 #26
"We aren't going to make 40% of the country disappear overnight." betsuni Jun 2019 #30
Pete is correct leftofcool Jun 2019 #27
Why not mention all the Good the Cha Jun 2019 #28
I have no problem with his remarks; I've been told the same by Democratic Leadership... brooklynite Jun 2019 #29
One reason they don't vote for us is because they are told both parties are the same. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #31
Exactly. honest.abe Jun 2019 #33
To one extent they are... brooklynite Jun 2019 #34
Trump didn't win. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #35
Yes he did... brooklynite Jun 2019 #36
I hope and pray its not the same in 2020. honest.abe Jun 2019 #38
No he didn't. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #39
"But somehow I'm not surprised to see this claim of legitimacy" brooklynite Jun 2019 #40
But it certainly changes the narrative that he somehow represents the will and wants of the people. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #41
Exactly! Cha Jun 2019 #56
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Yep, that kind of talk really hurts us. honest.abe Jun 2019 #32
I agree with Pete on this one, and not only because he is my preferred choice atm. Celerity Jun 2019 #47
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