Democratic Primaries

marylandblue

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71. Sure, and it's your prerogative to underestimate someone

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:28 PM

Jun 2019

who was underestimated in the past and is still being underestimated by many people today.

Trump is not an idiot, he literally only plays one on TV. Don't fall for the act again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It's time to consider who will make the best president, not who you think can best beat Trump [View all] mtnsnake Jun 2019 OP

So our only concern will be the inherent corruption abqtommy Jun 2019 #1

lets not forget Larrybanal Jun 2019 #90

I agree. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #2

Awesome post. You nailed the gist of it. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #4

According to this study trump could win Gothmog Jun 2019 #57

Sadly, painfully true. JudyM Jun 2019 #21

Have you look at the Senate lately...rightwing majorities...these are statewide races...there Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #42

There was just an article posted on DU the other day Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #45

. . . and legislation gets passed from the center majority empedocles Jun 2019 #52

The center is a moving target. marylandblue Jun 2019 #62

So it seems...but not with the GOP in control of the Senate. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #88

Economic models point to a Trump blowout in 2020. Gothmog Jun 2019 #54

Democrats don't want far left candidates. riverine Jun 2019 #60

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #89

The more we give in to the increasingly rightward moving center MarcA Jun 2019 #91

Bingo. shanny Jun 2019 #102

"just about any single one of our candidates will handily beat Trump" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #3

No caraher Jun 2019 #5

That is certain. nt mtnsnake Jun 2019 #13

Never assume. Irishxs Jun 2019 #69

Please quote the entire phrase next time. I said "just about any single one of our candidates....." mtnsnake Jun 2019 #7

Don't worry. Be happy. left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #12

haha, thank you for the edit. :) mtnsnake Jun 2019 #14

Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose Gothmog Jun 2019 #64

president hillary agrees with you nt msongs Jun 2019 #6

Very good comeback, but I said the ones who got fooled the first time won't be fooled again. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #11

Please clarify which people fucked whom over? LibFarmer Jun 2019 #32

Trump fucked over most of the people who voted for him in 2016. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #36

But we don't know how much Russian interference TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #59

How did they get fucked over? They wanted an asshole for President and they got one. marylandblue Jun 2019 #61

this is the real reason Biden is leading JI7 Jun 2019 #8

We get it. You don't like Biden. DrToast Jun 2019 #9

I always have to smile at those oh so original "We get it. You don't like 'whoever'" posts mtnsnake Jun 2019 #15

Okay, I'll play along DrToast Jun 2019 #18

I do think some people are choosing based upon what you're saying, mtnsnake Jun 2019 #19

Here's the way I see it. DrToast Jun 2019 #20

yes, electability is certainly an important factor, no doubt about it. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #23

+1 Kurt V. Jun 2019 #43

Is that really it, though? caraher Jun 2019 #16

June 2015 melman Jun 2019 #17

Lesson: Inevitable candidates aren't always inevitable sop Jun 2019 #48

I don't base my opinion that Biden is the only one who can beat Trump on polls...I look Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #34

You can't have 3-state strategy and a 50-state strategy at the same time. marylandblue Jun 2019 #72

It is too late for a fifty state strategy this year...we know Trump is going for an electoral Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #87

Will the big tent ever include those who could vote but don't MasonDreams Jun 2019 #109

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #10

After 2016 that is a dangerous assumption. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #22

I think it's way more dangerous to base our choice soley on who we think can best beat Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #25

You will not serve if you don't win...you have to win to do anything period. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #30

We shouldn't take Trump lightly again. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #35

We aren't taking him lightly. That's why we have as many wonderful Democratic candidates as we do. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #39

"despite any bullshit polls" TwilightZone Jun 2019 #24

and he still has RUSSIA Skittles Jun 2019 #27

I see a lot of support for Trump, they haven't left him yet and probably never will sop Jun 2019 #49

I think that is the reason people are going with Biden. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #26

I can't disagree with you about that. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #28

This, his stature and experience on the world stage is an invaluable asset as is his foreign emmaverybo Jun 2019 #55

I'm fine with Biden as SecState. shanny Jun 2019 #103

That is not true...few of our candidates can beat Trump...I think Biden is the only one personally. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #29

I think Biden, O' Rourke and Buttigieg can all beat Trump. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #38

No, lets be realistic. Buittigieg will lose because he lacks experience and probably because he is Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #44

Warren has shown the most spunk watoos Jun 2019 #31

The usual cry from candidates behind in the polls LibFarmer Jun 2019 #33

Polls are not votes. BlueWI Jun 2019 #46

what we need is the candidate who can most clean up this mess. mopinko Jun 2019 #37

I hate to disagree, but I have to. bearsfootball516 Jun 2019 #40

once the normal ppl start paying attention in those states biden won't fair well. his statements Kurt V. Jun 2019 #47

It's gotta be Harris,,, DUMendo Jun 2019 #41

Best Candidate Idonetoldem Jun 2019 #50

You know, I saw Yang on Bill Maher, and he was great. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #58

+1 Kaleva Jun 2019 #65

If Trump isn't defeated it won't matter which Democrat might be the best president, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #51

I strongly disagree-trump can easily win if we put up a weak candidate Gothmog Jun 2019 #53

Who said anything about putting up a weak candidate? I sure didn't. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #67

We have a number of candidates who trump can beat Gothmog Jun 2019 #73

Trump started out as a joke in 2015 Progressive dog Jun 2019 #56

Washngton Post-It's easy to see how Trump can win reelection Gothmog Jun 2019 #63

This is really a false choice on a misguided foundation. marylandblue Jun 2019 #66

You can overestimate Trump to your heart's content, so go ahead and play it safe. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #68

Sure, and it's your prerogative to underestimate someone marylandblue Jun 2019 #71

My vote goes to person who can do it on day one who doesn't need a learning curve to get us FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #70

A majority of Americans think that trump will br re-elected Gothmog Jun 2019 #74

This will not be a cakewalk. Not with the Russian mob backing Trump. McCamy Taylor Jun 2019 #75

unless a candidate can win, it doesn't matter about who makes the best.... beachbum bob Jun 2019 #76

I disagree that any of the candidates will beat Trump handily. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #77

Taking candy from a baby - how unrealistic. lark Jun 2019 #78

What's more unrealistic is thinking that Joe Biden is the only 2020 candidate who can beat Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #79

!00% lark Jun 2019 #80

All good reasons for sure. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #81

Yeah, Mayor Pete for one has taken me totally by surprise. lark Jun 2019 #82

I didn't think he'd have a chance, but the more I hear him, the more I think he could win mtnsnake Jun 2019 #84

"Joe Biden is in the President's head Gothmog Jun 2019 #92

No, it's not obvious right now that any of the candidates MineralMan Jun 2019 #83

Like I said in my post, I'm not suggesting we get overconfident about it mtnsnake Jun 2019 #85

I dont have faith in the system to believe that any of our candidates will "handily beat Trump". honest.abe Jun 2019 #86

Dems can not afford to nominate a weak candidate Gothmog Jun 2019 #93

JHC. You already said that in post 53, & I already answered you in post 67 that I never mtnsnake Jun 2019 #94

I disagree with the concept that trump is weak and that most of our candidates can beat trump Gothmog Jun 2019 #95

I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. LOL mtnsnake Jun 2019 #96

So do I Gothmog Jun 2019 #97

If we had the most wonderful, pure ...the best and he/she loses...it is a waste of time. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #98

Fair enough but I'm sticking to my opinion that just about any of our candidates will beat Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #100

We need both. MineralMan Jun 2019 #99

Yes, we do mtnsnake Jun 2019 #101

We most certainly do peggysue2 Jun 2019 #106

Why would anyone.... quickesst Jun 2019 #104

Try telling that to the people mtnsnake Jun 2019 #105

I have the confidence.... quickesst Jun 2019 #107

When Obama got elected it was absolutely wonderful MasonDreams Jun 2019 #108