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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Politicub

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64. I have literally not seen this message or anything like it on DU.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jun 2019

If it’s there, I must have missed it or it was posted by someone on my block list. It reaches the height of drama, and I am sorry that I missed it.

If anyone feels like any dem winning in 2020 is losing, they have bigger problems and need to seek professional help.

We are in the primary season. It’s okay to support any candidate that you want. Biden is the most popular right now. He is going to get more scrutiny because of that. It’s just the way it is.

No one is going to make it through the primary season unscathed. It would be convenient if we lined up behind the same person and enabled them to sail through to the nomination. The crucible-like primary exists for a reason. It’s a test and a hard one at that.

Better to air the dirty laundry and poor decisions that candidates have made now — and they all have various pieces of baggage that will rub someone the wrong way. The upside is it will give them and their communication teams the opportunity to address it and tailor messages about the issue.

If Biden is destined to win the nomination, that’s great and he will have so much support that it will drown out the naysayers. But I wouldn’t expect people to fall in line this early because of survey and poll results,. That’s insulting, frankly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
"If enough Democrats turn out..." SpankMe Jun 2019 #1
GOTV is always the answer. MineralMan Jun 2019 #3
This is why we need to look closely at the primary campaign. BlueWI Jun 2019 #16
We really don't have any data on that. MineralMan Jun 2019 #17
It's a complicated and somewhat state by state issue. BlueWI Jun 2019 #19
+1 treestar Jun 2019 #70
Yeah it's hard to predict what will work best. marylandblue Jun 2019 #67
Biden likely would do better in certain swing states Obama carried in '08 and '12 sop Jun 2019 #33
If he gets the nomination, Biden stratically choosing a progressive vp candidate pazzyanne Jun 2019 #55
Why ...that wont help in states we need to win...he should pivk Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #109
What does far left even mean? BlueWI Jun 2019 #90
Fail on the facts. lark Jun 2019 #23
Bigger turnout: combat Russian involvement delisen Jun 2019 #81
Part of that low voter turn out was because Doreen Jun 2019 #99
Zero evidence but if that makes you feel Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #106
I think so too. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #110
Yeah TheFarseer Jun 2019 #115
There was not low voter turn out. In fact was the highest total voter turnout Fla Dem Jun 2019 #130
Hillary Clinton DID NOT have low voter turnout. Fla Dem Jun 2019 #125
I agree with you... I say the same thing about Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #2
All the Democratic candidates still_one Jun 2019 #10
Yes, ALL of them... absolutely! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #14
.................................................................. still_one Jun 2019 #20
Oh, yawn already... billpolonsky Jun 2019 #27
Was I responding to you? still_one Jun 2019 #31
Anyone can reply to anyone else in DU threads. MineralMan Jun 2019 #37
Gee, I was wondered if he was responding to the right poster since he was responding to my tip of still_one Jun 2019 #63
Then you can just disregard my response, MineralMan Jun 2019 #71
The problem with Biden is that my concerns for the country's future won't be addressed, marylandblue Jun 2019 #4
Hmm...my concerns for the country's future and yours are probably MineralMan Jun 2019 #7
You are right, we aren't so far apart, the main difference is marylandblue Jun 2019 #12
What is the something he's never been his whole life? emmaverybo Jun 2019 #76
He's always had a good instinct for moderation and compromise.. marylandblue Jun 2019 #79
I'm not sure most of the more progressive changes more progressive candidates propose will emmaverybo Jun 2019 #96
I agree entirely. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #84
He is progressive,and I doubt your concerns will be addressed with any candidate. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #111
That's my opinion and I don't appreciate your flippant dismissal of it. marylandblue Jun 2019 #116
I wasnt flippant but truthful...the senate is a hard 'get. We need to win Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #123
And kindly forget about the Susan Sarandon types Zambero Jun 2019 #5
Can we put a pause on the left of center scapegoating? BlueWI Jun 2019 #18
+1 KPN Jun 2019 #25
I really hope we can. Ligyron Jun 2019 #45
100 million Trump votes? Zambero Jun 2019 #74
Corrected - my bad. BlueWI Jun 2019 #82
No ...they gave Trump his electoral c ollege win...and will do so again if we are not Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #107
62 million votes for Trump BlueWI Jun 2019 #139
If Biden becomes the nominee, so be it, but..... Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #6
Klobuchar, too, would be good. She just isn't as well known. MineralMan Jun 2019 #8
I can't wait until he's sworn in and shitbag is kicked out! Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #9
I don't think anyone equates Biden winning with a loss. BlueWI Jun 2019 #11
+1,000 n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #52
Joe Biden beating trump would be a very good thing Gothmog Jun 2019 #13
RBG pazzyanne Jun 2019 #58
Exactly right. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #108
Kick mcar Jun 2019 #15
Why are you so eager to coronate him before even a single primary or caucus? nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #21
Coronate? Where have I heard that before? MineralMan Jun 2019 #22
I am interested in all candidates at this point delisen Jun 2019 #80
Boy, if saying let's not consider it a loss IF he wins is coronation... emmaverybo Jun 2019 #77
And let's not consider it a loss if any highly qualified Democrat wins the primaries. nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #83
Nothing to do with what I posted. I notice your responses are never rebuttals. You double down emmaverybo Jun 2019 #88
All our candidates except a couple are great and I would vote for any candidate, but if Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #112
You have no proof of that. And you also don't know pnwmom Jun 2019 #120
Look at the polls if this holds, Biden is the one who can beat Trump. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #121
At this point in the polls in 2007, Obama had 1% and few guessed he could win the general. pnwmom Jun 2019 #122
re: "It isnt Biden ,we lose the general. Trump wins in the electoral college with Wi, PA and MI." thesquanderer Jun 2019 #126
We have to win by a great deal in order to keep the pugs from winning by cheating and the others Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #135
Yes Biden is leading the other candidates against Trump (or at least tied) in all three states... thesquanderer Jun 2019 #137
After seeing Biden's event last night, I'm less sure he could beat Trump. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #140
If he wins the primary it is a win not a coronation. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #136
Right. But that's a big if, considering we haven't had a single debate, pnwmom Jun 2019 #138
I believe that Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #24
+1. I'd vote for a doorknob over Trump dalton99a Jun 2019 #26
Not necessarily NewsCenter28 Jun 2019 #78
Haven't seen anyone pitch Biden as a loss here. The primary is just starting. People are just KPN Jun 2019 #28
A Biden presidency wouldn't be a loss. It would be a lateral movement. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #29
Nope. Look at Trump's record. MineralMan Jun 2019 #30
A lateral move from Trump? Iggo Jun 2019 #36
Don't be so sure. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #38
I imagine the poster means a lateral move robbob Jun 2019 #73
Keep in mind that Obama has Joe's ear anytime he wants it world wide wally Jun 2019 #32
I think he'll also have Obama's strong support if he's the nominee. MineralMan Jun 2019 #34
I'd have no problem voting for Joe Biden in the General Election. Iggo Jun 2019 #35
I'd prefer a woman, but I'll take a democrat any day over trump/disaster. demigoddess Jun 2019 #39
That could still happen, of course. MineralMan Jun 2019 #40
If he selects his VP strategically AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #41
Oh, I agree that Tim Caine wasn't the best choice for Hillary. MineralMan Jun 2019 #43
his choice did nothing to improve her candidacy. AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #48
I think the age factor might play into Biden's choice. MineralMan Jun 2019 #49
Klobuchar'c choice will do nothing AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #53
Perhaps there is another woman not in the primary Biden would FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #86
I'm thinking Elizabeth Warren might clash policy wise. Ligyron Jun 2019 #54
Joe Biden as nominee equals low youth vote turnout. lambchopp59 Jun 2019 #42
Well, I hope you're wrong about that. MineralMan Jun 2019 #46
I certainly hope so. lambchopp59 Jun 2019 #50
in other words, vote for trump. demigoddess Jun 2019 #118
When I meet this mythical... tonedevil Jun 2019 #44
Just watch this forum. You'll see that person from time to time. MineralMan Jun 2019 #47
So please provide an example Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #104
Here you go: MineralMan Jun 2019 #131
Where does that say Biden winning would be a loss? Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #132
It's right there, between the lines. MineralMan Jun 2019 #133
Oh. It is a metaphoric interpretation. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #134
I could introduce you to half a dozen of those unicorns here at DU. Keep your eyes peeled... Hekate Jun 2019 #60
Right? Control-Z Jun 2019 #93
I just call them on their sht when I catch them, but it's like whack a mole. Hekate Jun 2019 #97
That made me laugh. Control-Z Jun 2019 #98
So you've moved the goalposts to Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #105
I agree. Biden is certainly not everyone's favorite candidate, but I have seen zero indication thesquanderer Jun 2019 #124
I will vote for the nominee but in the meantime yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #51
No Democratic candidate will ever be good enough for some DUers IronLionZion Jun 2019 #56
yeah yeah yeah Skittles Jun 2019 #57
SCOTUS!!!! I'll vote for whatever Democrat wins the nomination!! OrlandoDem2 Jun 2019 #59
Ahhh, finally Democrats are looking at the long game! pazzyanne Jun 2019 #61
the extreme left will do what they always do, so don't be surprise when they do what they can to beachbum bob Jun 2019 #62
I have literally not seen this message or anything like it on DU. Politicub Jun 2019 #64
That's because no one has posted anything like it melman Jun 2019 #75
Exactly. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #85
Thank you. That's exactly what it is. I never saw a post like that, either. Nay Jun 2019 #100
It comes down to how he becomes the nominee customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #65
I don't have confidence Biden will win if he's the nominee Indygram Jun 2019 #66
Biden will give many mainstream Dems the security to become progressive. nolabear Jun 2019 #68
Agree, let us learn not to get overly attached to any of the treestar Jun 2019 #69
I'm with you. Iggo Jun 2019 #87
K&R nt NYMinute Jun 2019 #72
If the choice is between being Woke or winning, I pick winning Gothmog Jun 2019 #89
Michael Steele melman Jun 2019 #91
That's a false choice. Demit Jun 2019 #94
I Will Vote For Our Nominee colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #92
We should probably start uniting after Super Tuesday ecstatic Jun 2019 #95
Not losing zipplewrath Jun 2019 #101
And so it goes...16 was catastrophic for our side. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #113
Yeah it was zipplewrath Jun 2019 #114
We aren't allowed to have nice things Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #117
1 step forward zipplewrath Jun 2019 #119
Trying our best to get the African American population to vote in greater numbers sure would help. Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #102
Yes, I agree. Biden's doing well with that population so far. MineralMan Jun 2019 #103
The people in our party that are "my way or the highway" redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #127
That's the danger, for sure, and it's what I am talking about here. MineralMan Jun 2019 #128
Selection of Veep for any Democratic nominee will be important Freethinker65 Jun 2019 #129
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