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marylandblue

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23. I would not settle for that. And that is why they are disagreeing with Biden
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:26 AM
Jun 2019

The reason I would not settle is that there was a political and moral rot back then. I think many of us were not aware of how bad it really was, it was hidden beneath the surface, we were too complacent in Obama's competent hands, but it was there waiting and growing, like a cancer before you have any symptoms. Trump is the explosion of pain you get when the cancer gets big enough. It hurts, but now we know we were sick when we felt well.

When you have cancer, immediate treatment is required. Surgery and harsh drugs. Cancer can move fast, so we must move faster. Times of change move fast, they create their own urgency. Lincoln wanted to slowly end slavery, but instead he had Civil War before he even took office. Roosevelt had a national crisis, he moved immediately to start solving it. We are at such a time. Different kind of crisis, but a still a crisis.

That is what B and B are saying. You are saying you would settle for going back to the Obama years. They are saying that's like ignoring the real disease, and just taking pain killers instead. It's not an attack on Obama or Biden to say there were problems they could not solve. It's simply an important place where they disagree with Biden. You have to decide who is right. That's what elections are all about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
They have a point Renew Deal Jun 2019 #1
Well probably qazplm135 Jun 2019 #2
because he is leading but what Beto said was exaggerated by the media JI7 Jun 2019 #3
Seems clear to me. shanny Jun 2019 #4
First of all the fire in the party is in ALL of us. Second, Biden is doing quite well emmaverybo Jun 2019 #9
Thank You, emmaverybo. They Cha Jun 2019 #13
Thank you, emmaverybo! pazzyanne Jun 2019 #17
I would not settle for that. And that is why they are disagreeing with Biden marylandblue Jun 2019 #23
"You are saying you would settle for going back to the Obama years." pazzyanne Jun 2019 #34
Your exact quote was "Right now I would settle for getting our nation "back" to where Obama brought marylandblue Jun 2019 #36
I stand by my take on repairing damage and then moving on to improve pazzyanne Jun 2019 #38
Well said. shanny Jun 2019 #43
"Some far past" is a strawman shanny Jun 2019 #24
There's a reason Elizabeth is on the UP swing and Biden is on a DOWN slide... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #41
For the psychological effects ecstatic Jun 2019 #5
I'd rather be stuck in the nineties than the 1930s, what with all this talk about the past lately. betsuni Jun 2019 #6
Or how about those 8 years that President Obama Cha Jun 2019 #18
"Wisdom comes with age". oasis Jun 2019 #7
I'm influenced somewhat by what happened with my father. TexasTowelie Jun 2019 #8
And, I like Beto.. but I look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg Cha Jun 2019 #15
Whoosh! peggysue2 Jun 2019 #19
BS jumped on it, too.. Cha Jun 2019 #20
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Jun 2019 #22
.. Cha Jun 2019 #25
+1000 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #30
If Beto had accomplished even a fraction of what Biden and Obama have 4now Jun 2019 #10
Beto didn't attack either of them Indygram Jun 2019 #12
Excellent point, 4now.. Cha Jun 2019 #14
Like helping get Clarence Thomas nominated and the Crime Bill? Indygram Jun 2019 #16
And, you're not looking at the whole picture Cha Jun 2019 #21
Ok, we can add opposing legalization of marijuana and not taking China seriously Indygram Jun 2019 #27
THE List of 385 Obama Accomplishments so far, With Citations Cha Jun 2019 #31
I'm bookmarking this list DesertRat Jun 2019 #44
Milt Shook was an awesome Cha Jun 2019 #46
Before Obama was the President, his resume was considered to be thin. marylandblue Jun 2019 #26
Obama's resume was so thin tirebiter Jun 2019 #35
He wasn't awarded a Nobel Prize for anything he did before he ran for President. marylandblue Jun 2019 #37
Amen! nt DesertRat Jun 2019 #45
Beto doesn't poll test things and always speaks from his heart Indygram Jun 2019 #11
So the writer at Vanity Fair thought it was an insult.. Cha Jun 2019 #28
Exactly. betsuni Jun 2019 #32
Thanks, betsuni.. Cha Jun 2019 #33
Democratic presidents have to clean up the mess Republican administrations make. betsuni Jun 2019 #39
Exactly, Good Point!.. This should be Cha Jun 2019 #40
They're not "going after" or "attacking" Biden. They were ASKED... Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #29
Going from the the drumpfian 18th and 19th Century way of thinking democratisphere Jun 2019 #42
Yeah.. there's that, democratisphere! Cha Jun 2019 #47
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