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Kind of Blue

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88. Yes, that was the interesting thing about the article.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jun 2019

Though I focused on the black issue, their polling shows that black and white dems are closer in feelings about racism and not to "assume this controversy cuts along purely black-white lines." And though his popularity with black voters is large, "He leads more narrowly, and sometimes trails, among white Democrats," and that can't just be on racial issues alone. But, as you said, "the accumulated weight of badly managed gaffes may drag him down."


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Biden is well known for making gaffes. There will be many more. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #1
Yes, they will go apoplectic over many of them, and marylandblue Jun 2019 #7
I took Joe to mean mainstreetonce Jun 2019 #2
He is white. It made no sense to even bring it up. BeckyDem Jun 2019 #3
Yes it does. This senator often referred to young members as boys. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #8
Who was the term boy meant for and its meaning by this senator? BeckyDem Jun 2019 #17
It's pretty clear what Biden meant. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #20
Kennedy and Biden are WHITE. BeckyDem Jun 2019 #21
Thank you. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #30
That's the problem. zentrum Jun 2019 #36
lol Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #41
No. Actually... zentrum Jun 2019 #66
what did he mean when he [called] edit inferred Rev. Barber boy earlier this week? floppyboo Jun 2019 #22
What are you saying? Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #31
I seriously am not sure I know where unconsious and just deaf behaviour divides floppyboo Jun 2019 #48
Nice edit after your blatant lie... Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #50
That's a new definition of lie. It was, and still is, my interpretation. floppyboo Jun 2019 #53
You lied. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #58
nope. That's what I heard. Still hear. Wasn't a quote. Was what I heard floppyboo Jun 2019 #67
Just own up to the lie. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #69
Have you watched the video? floppyboo Jun 2019 #71
Can you provide the quote where he called him boy? Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #73
see my post 37. floppyboo Jun 2019 #75
So he didn't call him boy. Got it. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #76
no, not directly. He included him in the group of 'old boys'. so by inference floppyboo Jun 2019 #77
Thanks for clarifying he didn't call him boy. Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #78
Are you saying that Biden zentrum Jun 2019 #32
Not directly. But judge the reaction yourself. floppyboo Jun 2019 #37
It's the insinuation. Very sleazy. redstateblues Jun 2019 #40
Biden's? I wasn't impying that. floppyboo Jun 2019 #49
Right. why did he even go there? Kurt V. Jun 2019 #33
Damned if I know, made no sense. BeckyDem Jun 2019 #38
Exactly!! Just imagine if Bernie had said this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #42
So much woe. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #70
Bernie makes a lot of gaffes too emulatorloo Jun 2019 #102
As a white man, he could be "son" not boy robbedvoter Jun 2019 #4
oh I dont know, I've been called boy Triloon Jun 2019 #11
It's disrespectful either way...but white men have a much different experience and reality Indygram Jun 2019 #18
Yes... goes without saying. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #43
But the use of 'Boy' the way Biden was discussing it Triloon Jun 2019 #47
When Biden has told this story in the past... tonedevil Jun 2019 #56
He called Ted Kennedy and others "boy" as well. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #25
Like I said in my OP...I don't think ANYONE thinks Joe is a racist OR Indygram Jun 2019 #10
It's called an unforced error... why even say it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #44
No question... Joe needs to apologize and fast!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #52
Which seems like an odd way to acknowledge your white privilege. /nt tonedevil Jun 2019 #14
let's go Joe ! John Lewis backs Biden: stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #5
I say it's simple enough to throw down the gauntlet... LincolnRossiter Jun 2019 #6
I don't think you read my original post because I said clearly no one thinks Biden is racist Indygram Jun 2019 #12
It's very clear what you said... not that it matters when it comes to twisting words. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #45
Sorry. As per another thread, the senator called younger white guys son or boy to put them in their emmaverybo Jun 2019 #9
You don't get to decide who is or is not offended by "boy" Indygram Jun 2019 #15
They can be offended based on their interpretation. They are free to deconstruct any speech, emmaverybo Jun 2019 #24
Nor do you. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #27
Nor am I Indygram Jun 2019 #34
Since Biden and his campaign... tonedevil Jun 2019 #16
Agreed Indygram Jun 2019 #19
Joe stepped in it again, big time... he needs to step UP and apologize. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #46
Booker has zero chance at the nomination madville Jun 2019 #84
You always, always make so much sense. Thank you! Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #26
My white husband hates what I say "atta boy" when he does something good or great..... a kennedy Jun 2019 #13
Next week Biden haters will have yet another issue left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Jun 2019 #28
Joe didn't call anyone "boy". All the backers of the 2% candidates are trying to make hay redstateblues Jun 2019 #29
I didn't say he called anyone "boy" Indygram Jun 2019 #35
The insinuations speak volumes redstateblues Jun 2019 #39
Oh for the love of Christ...my intent is to try to help those who don't get it understand WHY Indygram Jun 2019 #59
There is no deep meaning in this attack...the 'why' is losing candidates want to improve their Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #64
Yeah, like THAT is gonna happen!! A response SHOULD be based on what you said, but... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #51
its a pretty obvious that it's an attempt at a smear. Epic fail redstateblues Jun 2019 #57
At least Bernie & Elizabeth can win something... so, thanks for that, I guess. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #60
Biden was not even talking about the senator calling black males boy. He was referencing his emmaverybo Jun 2019 #54
History. Iliyah Jun 2019 #55
He was referring to someone else using it, something that happened in his life treestar Jun 2019 #61
Replace "boy" with the n-word since they are used the same way Indygram Jun 2019 #62
That's just getting so out there treestar Jun 2019 #72
It's not "talking about what happened in the past" that was/is the issue Indygram Jun 2019 #79
That is very extreme treestar Jun 2019 #89
In the South where I started life ...in Virginia...Boy was applied to Black and White men...son was Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #63
replace the word "boy" with the n-word Indygram Jun 2019 #65
When Eastman called Senator Ted Kennedy "boy" was he calling him "n****er? Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #68
Brilliant and in such few words. I can only marvel. By the way, I find the discussion topic title emmaverybo Jun 2019 #80
Biden called no one 'boy'...so I miss your point...as for the N word my Virginian Mom would have Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #99
Yes, I dont mind him talking about working with the other side, but the "boy" comment... cwydro Jun 2019 #74
What scares me is that his advisers did tell him not to use the story but he didn't listen marylandblue Jun 2019 #81
Biden was doing Booker a favor tirebiter Jun 2019 #82
I feel bad for Biden that he has to go through this. This is almost not worth it. nt mr_liberal Jun 2019 #83
And Trump JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #85
I'm in agreement with this article's conclusion. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #86
I think focusing on the black issue misses the real problem with Biden. marylandblue Jun 2019 #87
Yes, that was the interesting thing about the article. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #88
Makes it more amazing then that Obama considered him such a good VP. How did Biden manage emmaverybo Jun 2019 #90
He is known to gaffe a lot. He says so himself. Doesn't mean he has no useful talents. marylandblue Jun 2019 #91
You can't be gaffing your way through Iraq, during tricky negotiations, with huge numbers of emmaverybo Jun 2019 #93
I didn't create his reputation, it's well known. Don't pretend it doesn't exist. marylandblue Jun 2019 #94
So Buttigieg didn't make a gaffe when he told the black protester that he isn't asking for her vote? Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #95
Oh, it is a gaffe, but he has much bigger problem, that will likely sink him. marylandblue Jun 2019 #97
He IS being swift-boated, and any frontrunner will be. I am not making a case for Biden's emmaverybo Jun 2019 #96
Sorry, I don't mean to put words in your mouth. marylandblue Jun 2019 #98
O.K. Fair assessment. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #101
Your title suggests you think we don't know that "boy" can be used as a racial epithet. I don't emmaverybo Jun 2019 #92
EVERYBODY kNOWS WTF boy means and it's usage including Biden so SAVE IT. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #100
Apparently not. The meaning of words varies according to context, custom, historical use, emmaverybo Jun 2019 #103
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