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89. What a freaking moron.. T Fisher King speaks for me..

Reply to betsuni (Reply #88)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:25 PM

Jun 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The reason I don't think Trump will start a war is the same reason why Biden is the wrong candidate [View all] mtnsnake Jun 2019 OP

Interesting. Maybe that's why we are not in a war yet, despite all of Trump's bluffing. marylandblue Jun 2019 #1

Nope, the ONLY reason we (USA, Rump) do ANYTHING is Putin. He calls ALL the shots. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #33

sick and tired of wars? i doubt it. unblock Jun 2019 #2

Bring back the draft, no standing armies happyaccident Jun 2019 #76

If Trump thinks a war will help him in 2020 ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #3

You do remember the Senate was lied to before the Iraq war vote? pwb Jun 2019 #4

I also remember how so many smart people didn't believe the lies & predicted what would happen, mtnsnake Jun 2019 #5

Your talking about the Senate vote, not smart people. pwb Jun 2019 #6

um, "defending us" on the basis of a lie is not defending us shanny Jun 2019 #10

I don't see it that way. pwb Jun 2019 #12

oy vey shanny Jun 2019 #15

The Pukes lied, not Biden. pwb Jun 2019 #17

I think mtnsnake's point is that Biden's war vote will be used against him marylandblue Jun 2019 #47

For sure mtnsnake Jun 2019 #52

The Iraq war hasn't been a significant factor in a GE since 2008 BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #98

In a close election, it's really hard to say what was "significant" and "most people" don't matter marylandblue Jun 2019 #99

ofttimes NOT going to war is 'defending us' nt Celerity Jun 2019 #24

a shambolic exercise if ever there was one shanny Jun 2019 #9

Well said. mtnsnake Jun 2019 #11

backatcha shanny Jun 2019 #13

No, they shouldn't. It was along time ago and the only ones who are are the candidates who are Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #34

Thousands of American lives lost shanny Jun 2019 #53

And Biden did all of that single-handedly? LMAO Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #69

of course not. duh. shanny Jun 2019 #72

You realize that IWR would have passed Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #74

Conveniently forgotten, I'm sure. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #19

That is a very good reason to vote AGAINST giving the liars authority to go to war Martin Eden Jun 2019 #71

" He tried to slow Bush's rush to war before he voted for it." You need some background emmaverybo Jun 2019 #7

I realize this doesn't go over well with Biden supporters, obviously, but mtnsnake Jun 2019 #8

I'm not a "Biden supporter" awesomerwb1 Jun 2019 #22

Thank you!! Some sanity left somewhere... Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #61

Trump's win had nothing to do with Iraq...he eked out an electoral college win in the blue wall Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #32

You don't know how many people in those three states disliked Hillary for her war vote. marylandblue Jun 2019 #49

I live in Ohio ... most supported the war and still do to a point...I would say 0...she lost because Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #50

So you've spoken to everyone in the State of Ohio, and marylandblue Jun 2019 #57

I doubt any of us underestimate what the Trump/RW machine will do to any Dem nominee. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #77

It doesn't matter wtf trump will Cha Jun 2019 #81

+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2019 #84

Gracias, she! Cha Jun 2019 #85

You're right of course. But when the spin gets going, facts don't matter. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #14

He IS painted as a war-monger, Anita Hill's arch-nemesis, the "architect of mass emmaverybo Jun 2019 #25

Remember Kerry and the swiftboaters? Never say anything might not stick. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #83

Warren will be painted as a socialist as well...the difference is it won't work with Biden. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #29

You are right that any nominee will painted negatively, but that includes Joe Biden karynnj Jun 2019 #51

"Biden is the nominee who voted us into a disastrous war....." George II Jun 2019 #16

Not if your goal is to harm his candidacy Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #35

All else having failed I see the haters are circling back to IWR BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #18

Instead of trying to insult me, you should try being thoughtful like all the others in this thread mtnsnake Jun 2019 #23

Your concern/wishful thinking is duly noted. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #26

I don't hate any candidate, including Joe Biden. democrank Jun 2019 #38

So don't vote for him then. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #41

I will "be for someone" when I make my decision. Not until. democrank Jun 2019 #58

That won't work for Biden voters...and Biden has been vetted thus is the best candidate...and there Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #28

That particular post was only to Bannon mtnsnake Jun 2019 #31

Just pointing out that Biden voters won't be poached... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #36

Not poached. But they are leaving him. progressoid Jun 2019 #68

There is video out there that shows Trump redstateblues Jun 2019 #44

If you're talking about the Iraq War, Trump's MO was to blast Hillary for voting for it. He also mtnsnake Jun 2019 #48

Of course it didn't. He lied and Matthews et al didn't call him on it. Like so many other things the redstateblues Jun 2019 #97

The other desperate shit is not working...Biden is still winning and will be the nominee in my Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #27

It couldn't be more obvious BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #30

I agree...be for something and somebody.. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #37

Beyond that, the logic is childlike. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #59

All of your attempts to brush aside any legitimate concerns about Biden are a reflection mtnsnake Jun 2019 #63

K BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #73

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #45

Try being for someone. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #46

There you go again implying I'm not for anyone when that is the farthest thing from the truth mtnsnake Jun 2019 #54

All I ever see are silly concern posts about Biden like this one. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #55

Prove it Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #75

To the OP, all roads lead to Biden as the wrong candidate. Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #20

well said.. well said Peacetrain Jun 2019 #39

+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #66

LOL! peggysue2 Jun 2019 #60

Trump would provoke military action without a war resolution IronLionZion Jun 2019 #21

We are not picking a candidate based on what the Dotard will have to say about them treestar Jun 2019 #40

I agree we are not basing it on that, but we need to take everything into account mtnsnake Jun 2019 #43

desperation ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #56

Agreed. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #64

It wasn't even a factor, let alone "not the only reason he won". MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #62

Exactly. People keep forgetting that Clinton (should have) won. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #65

Boggles the mind. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #67

so which of those 3 things is gonna be dif this time? questionseverything Jun 2019 #79

Those are the things we should be addressing. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #80

the problem is we are not fighting on even ground and we havent been since electronic vote counting questionseverything Jun 2019 #82

Iraq War vote Martin Eden Jun 2019 #70

LOL betsuni Jun 2019 #78

... Cha Jun 2019 #87

Reminds me of what our pal Susan Sarandon said about the last nominee: betsuni Jun 2019 #88

What a freaking moron.. T Fisher King speaks for me.. Cha Jun 2019 #89

When asked about that she just says that Obama did it too but was more sneaky about it. betsuni Jun 2019 #90

Proving once again Cha Jun 2019 #92

Susan Sarandon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2019 #91

Yes.. Sarandon is the epitome of rich white privelege.. Cha Jun 2019 #93

I don't think the Iraq War Resolution will be a major factor in the 2020 general election. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #86

Silly argument. HRC's vote for the Iraq War didn't stop her from winning the popular vote in 2016. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #94

Ikr! Thank You! Cha Jun 2019 #95

If Biden falters it won't be because of his positions. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2019 #96

maybe, but that undermines the idea that Sanders is too left wing to be electable, marylandblue Jun 2019 #100

I've wondered about this... Mike Nelson Jun 2019 #101