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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
170. It's called debate prep
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jun 2019

It's all the rage among the political set. Has been for years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
What a hurtful thing to say... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #1
LOL. That was a gotcha. nt emmaverybo Jun 2019 #24
The black community has EVERY right to confront insensitivity in any way that works. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #206
Oh my gawd. Biden needs to be stronger, but he does not represent represent the panoply emmaverybo Jun 2019 #211
I wasn't "flaming" - I'm genuinely sick of this "get Kamala" bullying, when the problem was... DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #215
Well, ok. Yes, you were writing in caps. You feel anger on behalf of Harris. Every person here will emmaverybo Jun 2019 #222
Your thoughts are beautifully expressed and I agree with much of it... DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #256
Hillary grew up middle class. Trump grew up rich. Your "class superiority" theory can't be emulatorloo Jun 2019 #320
I see what you did there! cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #357
Much of AA Community was behind the crime bill. Progressive Senator Bernie Sanders voted for it emulatorloo Jun 2019 #387
What about a more recent time when Sen. Harris was the DA and AG ? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #392
Well considering that cannabis_flower Jul 2019 #396
It is the reason I support your candidate if for some reason Biden isn't in it...and I think he will Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #398
Also, frankly, who gets called "coldly calculating" ? dawg day Jun 2019 #311
Right. And thats proven by AA support for Joe going up 18% onetexan Jun 2019 #254
Oh please that was not what went on...a political hit...lets not pretend this was a profound moment. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #271
Obama is the epitome True Blue American Jun 2019 #282
I adore Pres. Obama. He was the best president of my lifetime... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #319
What an excellent response. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #336
+1 n/t ariadne0614 Jun 2019 #360
Harris does not strike me as angry, she strikes me as both emotional and cynical... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #302
Sorry, Biden has no one to blame but himself. brush Jun 2019 #275
Undoubtedly, but it says a lot about Harris that her team seized on RHMerriman Jun 2019 #303
Politics is not bean bags. IMO it shows that she manages to display her skills and shine... brush Jun 2019 #309
Kavanaugh and Barr, however, are our enemies... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #312
Mixed record? Seriously? Sorry, but Joe was defending "states rights" as his response to her... brush Jun 2019 #326
Do you have anything Biden did on race in the last 20 years that's objectionable? emulatorloo Jun 2019 #338
Again, Joe is the one who bought up segregationists from 40 years ago. brush Jun 2019 #341
Are you really arguing that supporting federally-ordered mandatory busing of public school children RHMerriman Jun 2019 #354
I don't get it either. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #397
There are some pretty good old-fashioned words that come to mind... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #416
He was not responsible for damaging Hill or even trying to. Clarence Thomas, ironically, used emmaverybo Jul 2019 #394
Biden unfortunately as chairman of the committee didn't allow other women... brush Jul 2019 #399
One woman refused to. He weighed calling on her as a hostile witness. Counsel to the emmaverybo Jul 2019 #412
She created this 'opportunity' And it was dishonest too...facts don't add up...t-shirt ready to Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #363
You're blaming her for Joe's misstep? He inexplicably bought up the incident... brush Jun 2019 #371
He'd mentioned it before so she probably had it ready to go before that fundraiser. ucrdem Jun 2019 #372
He is known to be gaffe-prone but this was way more than a gaffe. Hope he gets past it... brush Jun 2019 #373
She.. harris has said herself "they" she and campaign staff had been planning this for months Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #401
Yeah, that t-shirt thing did kinda make people wonder. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #430
Smack! LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #298
Says a lot about Harris that her team RHMerriman Jun 2019 #305
And playing the "you hurt my feelings" card is not exactly presidential LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #317
Nope ... it's actually pretty much an admission of weakness. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #356
Hope she doesn't do that if she ever debates that crude lump. He'd hurt 'em some more. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #381
why do you put quotation marks around things she didn't say? tishaLA Jul 2019 #414
It seems weird to me that DU is projecting Donald Trump's very real racism onto Biden emulatorloo Jun 2019 #321
Nothing like self-righteousness to make weak people feel strong... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #358
Very strange. Biden wants to defeat the White Supremacist enabler. He rolled out his campaign emmaverybo Jun 2019 #382
Indeed!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #402
That's exactly what's happening. RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #427
Every candidate preplans a "Gotcha moment" left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #2
Preplanned gotcha moments aren't IMO half as effective as genuine, spontaneous reactions. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #4
You know what also works....humor...but it's easier to just go low. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #158
One person did their homework, the other one blew off their debate prep as reported by his aids. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #160
His aides say he "blew off" debate prep? cwydro Jun 2019 #224
Yup, per TBOGG directly. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #240
This is troubling on a number of levels. cwydro Jun 2019 #263
She lost me ...I never thought she could win a general...but as VP maybe...hell if Biden was gone, Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #322
Well, it worked I guess.. she's "the star" of Cha Jun 2019 #3
If it's any help to you, it turned me off her. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #17
if Kamala attacked Biden to gain AA support, she did just the opposite onetexan Jun 2019 #29
It means something.. Thank You, Honeycombe! Cha Jun 2019 #42
Indeed! Pollsters keep saying SC is the bellwether for the AA vote Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #403
Thank You, Thekaspervote! Cha Jul 2019 #408
Moi aussi! Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #57
I was pretty impressed with Harris's PatSeg Jun 2019 #128
Do white candidates ever play the race card? people Jun 2019 #185
No, because they're white and don't have a race. They're just "people." StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #195
the entire republican party is is about playing the race card in favor of white people JI7 Jun 2019 #202
I read Kamala's book a few months ago FakeNoose Jun 2019 #194
She has a great story PatSeg Jun 2019 #260
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #389
"The race card?" You mean referring to her own experience? dawg day Jun 2019 #313
There is a reason I put "race card" in quotes PatSeg Jun 2019 #366
She misrepresented her own story. She was not bused under Federal mandate. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #395
I agree with you 1,000%. She showed me the real Kamala, last night. I am disgusted. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #5
So you're not buying a T shirt? dem4decades Jun 2019 #8
Agree that the rush to sell the t-shirt was also bad, and also probably planned highplainsdem Jun 2019 #11
Yeah, I have to agree with you there... t-shirts, really?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #54
A crass and blatant giveaway Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #66
Re the t-shirt -- check out the replies to the CBS News tweet and story about it: highplainsdem Jun 2019 #134
LOVE the t-shirt, LOVE the debate smackdown. Kamala's got the smarts and moxie to chimpymustgo Jun 2019 #369
That photo took no time to find because it has been out there for MONTHS, pnwmom Jun 2019 #13
T-shirts take a little longer. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #20
So? She's been telling that personal story for months now. Nicolle Wallace said that pnwmom Jun 2019 #45
"....succeeded in life in part because of advances in civil rights...." 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #111
President Obama's parents luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #117
Yeah. Well I just hope it ain't her. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #118
Oh I have to agree!! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #404
I said, "in part." She could only attend the public school she did because of pnwmom Jun 2019 #137
She was not an inner city kid...educated parents...lived in Berkley...wait until the oppo research Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #323
I am familiar with Berkeley, are you? pnwmom Jun 2019 #328
We were there when I was little, it was a very nice place as I remember it... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #329
Parts of it weren't so nice. Your parents might not have taken you there. pnwmom Jun 2019 #335
Yeah...and what year was that picture taken? I went to schools that were not that great to...my Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #364
Were you forced to go to a certain school or prevented from living in a nicer neighborhood pnwmom Jun 2019 #365
They can be printed to order jberryhill Jun 2019 #48
I'm not disgusted by her, but I was disappointed to realize how calculated what I'd first thought highplainsdem Jun 2019 #16
So... techne7319 Jun 2019 #153
Biden was showing his integrity and character by honoring the agreement friend of m and j Jun 2019 #210
I have no doubt... techne7319 Jun 2019 #213
I have a problem with insincerity and emotional manipulation, which was my takeaway from highplainsdem Jun 2019 #249
Mining one's own painful and personal history for its political advantage is not a good thing. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #27
Oh my jberryhill Jun 2019 #52
LOL. None of the other candidates ever mention their own stories of struggle, do they? pnwmom Jun 2019 #58
It's the seemingly "calculated" part that's the objection as well stated in the OP. Cha Jun 2019 #79
But the OP is wrong about the photo. It's been all over the Internet since January, pnwmom Jun 2019 #95
So she's worried that advances in Civil Rights are threatened. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #113
No. But he constantly talks about how he's willing to work with the other side. pnwmom Jun 2019 #132
Biden voted True Blue American Jun 2019 #237
Biden was chair of the Judiciary Committee. We needed him to do more than just vote no. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #245
So? He made decisions that made it easier for other Dems to vote yes. pnwmom Jun 2019 #291
But Harris said she agreed with Biden on working with the other side though emulatorloo Jun 2019 #340
We have decades of Biden's career showing us how he's worked pnwmom Jun 2019 #343
But Harris explicitly said to Biden that she agreed with him on working with the other side. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #347
Clarence Thomas is my main argument. pnwmom Jun 2019 #349
The issue is HOW you work with the other side. And whether Biden's compromises pnwmom Jul 2019 #410
Yes it should... Americans by overwhelming poll approval want the 2 sides to work together Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #405
It matters HOW you work with the other side. In his eagerness to work with the other side, pnwmom Jul 2019 #411
You can recognize it's her even as a little girl. Ligyron Jun 2019 #135
I love that photo. What a strong little girl. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #138
And when do Democrats ever accuse white male Democrats of being "calculating"? pnwmom Jun 2019 #101
IKR mobeau69 Jun 2019 #133
I don't think they will attack rivals in service of their own ambitions, armed with personal emmaverybo Jun 2019 #353
And you, personally, would never support a candidate who did such a thing, would you? pnwmom Jun 2019 #60
It's the seemingly "calculated" part that is objectionable.. Cha Jun 2019 #71
Uh, Joe Biden does that frequently, and I don't mind it at all. dawg day Jun 2019 #314
He has never used personal pain to bring down another candidate not responsible for it, to advance emmaverybo Jun 2019 #331
I wish she had used some of that prosecutorial know-how COLGATE4 Jun 2019 #119
I remember her being the best interrogator of Barr tishaLA Jun 2019 #179
She didn't go after Sanders last night on the issue, even though HE was against busing in the 1970s. George II Jun 2019 #6
Good point. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #7
I'm sure she'll have a way of using his record against him, too tishaLA Jun 2019 #12
She won't have to go after Bernie customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #99
I wonder if she will try the same thing twice Beringia Jun 2019 #103
If her poll numbers go up customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #115
I actually agree re: the junior senator from VT tishaLA Jun 2019 #110
Not necessarily customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #120
That would be unfortunate if she did that tishaLA Jun 2019 #143
We'll have to wait and see customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #149
Unfortunately, some people are going to be considering how this will play nationally. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #188
That's a prosecutor trick customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #191
I would bet most won't forget and she doesn't get the nomination. She is not playing to a jury. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #207
She's acting like she is. customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #208
I think she miscalculated. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #362
She indeed has to fair well in the SC primary, right now it doesn't look like it's going her way Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #407
It looks like customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #409
Worse and worser. Fine for the courtroom, but not for a candidate who leads America out of emmaverybo Jun 2019 #36
Sanders support has already reached its ceiling, and it's dropping. pnwmom Jun 2019 #61
You're kidding!? OMG.. BS was against busing, too..Wow.. Cha Jun 2019 #102
Bazinga! George II Jun 2019 #106
Sanders has... techne7319 Jun 2019 #154
Sanders does not have much support among minorities JI7 Jun 2019 #204
That childhood photo has long been out there. I found it in SECONDS. pnwmom Jun 2019 #9
Why do you keep repeating this? Out there already, but not used in this manipulative context emmaverybo Jun 2019 #114
Because the whole premise of the OP was that the fact they could quickly tweet out the photo pnwmom Jun 2019 #124
No-it was that the exact phrase she used last night was on a t-shirt with the photo, 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #192
Where was it on her twitter feed? I just looked through her Twitter all day June 27 and 28th pnwmom Jun 2019 #212
Sorry, it was picked up by CBS news twitter the night of the debate from her campaign Instagram. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #296
Politicians prepare for debates. tishaLA Jun 2019 #10
Oh ok... techne7319 Jun 2019 #14
She's too ambitious StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #155
Unladylike too Hekate Jun 2019 #216
She didn't plan his response melman Jun 2019 #15
I'm sure that he never thought that she would insinuate that he was a racist. Anyone would be taken Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #21
I mean, it was a story just last weekend. tishaLA Jun 2019 #23
Kamala: "I don't believe that you are a racist, but..." In essence, she called him a racist. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #30
You're actually misquoting her. She never said "I don't believe you're a racist, but" tishaLA Jun 2019 #40
She didn't call him a racist. Blue_true Jun 2019 #83
No putdown. I am a black woman and proud of it. This is why I speak with cred when I say Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #178
Then I defer to you. Blue_true Jun 2019 #361
I'm remind of this quote: "Nothing someone says before the word 'but' really counts" hlthe2b Jun 2019 #238
Not in this personal a way, with an entire scene played out, using self-revelation to score points. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #43
Actually, Sen Booker was quite personal about it too tishaLA Jun 2019 #50
I'm actually surprise by how many she did turn off.. Cha Jun 2019 #112
i dont want a prosecutor in general questionseverything Jun 2019 #37
Oh how true! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #74
Hear hear! defacto7 Jun 2019 #130
I think a 70-something white career politician would not need to be handled with kid gloves RockRaven Jun 2019 #49
This StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #156
BINGO!!!!!! nt Blue_true Jun 2019 #72
I beg to differ. Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #88
His responsive was too reactive womanofthehills Jun 2019 #139
He reacted to it in proportion to the Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #151
What is up with everyone... techne7319 Jun 2019 #18
Quit whining about who you perceive as whining. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #33
Deny deny deny... attack techne7319 Jun 2019 #73
Harris uses identity politics to attack her opponents. Galraedia Jun 2019 #175
And I'll argue that... techne7319 Jun 2019 #183
Team Trump will destroy Kamala Harris. Galraedia Jun 2019 #198
You are the attacker. Not I... LakeArenal Jun 2019 #193
Round and round... techne7319 Jun 2019 #203
YOU brought up whining. And still you whine. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #261
It's the tactic. It's the low blow. It's what this says about character. Aside from a killer emmaverybo Jun 2019 #67
Your right to your opinion techne7319 Jun 2019 #80
I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. defacto7 Jun 2019 #145
I also respect Buttigieg for his honest answers about Southbend, his having done a tough thing emmaverybo Jun 2019 #176
white male privilege, in part Skittles Jun 2019 #78
Perhaps techne7319 Jun 2019 #86
oh I have noticed Skittles Jun 2019 #187
Thank you techne7319 Jun 2019 #197
Lighten up, Francis. Not everything is a conspiracy. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #332
This message was self-deleted by its author techne7319 Jun 2019 #346
Making up nasty names for a candidate's supporters is frowned on around here n/t emulatorloo Jun 2019 #351
She benefited from a voluntary busing program that she accused Biden of opposing. ucrdem Jun 2019 #19
Actually, I think her point was that more students could have benefited tishaLA Jun 2019 #26
She said "that was hurtful to me" in an emotional tone. ucrdem Jun 2019 #32
Yes, that's called empathy. tishaLA Jun 2019 #41
It was a false accusation on top of a false accusation. ucrdem Jun 2019 #51
Honestly, I don't expect his supporters to like it tishaLA Jun 2019 #53
I hadn't analyzed it completely until now but it was thoroughly disgraceful. ucrdem Jun 2019 #59
The optics frequently differ... tonedevil Jul 2019 #393
Never - I know a few neighbors of mine who are convinced that she can win the general. I do not Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #56
Biden was the perfect target because he IS empathetic, and older, and male. ucrdem Jun 2019 #70
Im Kind of the flip side of DU on this FreeState Jun 2019 #84
Okay but where was the pain? She went to a good school in Berkeley. ucrdem Jun 2019 #87
In her voice when she spoke n/t FreeState Jun 2019 #89
Yes, but that's what we're objecting to. ucrdem Jun 2019 #91
I disagree FreeState Jun 2019 #98
I felt it. It was effective. But it was wrong to accuse Biden of hurting her. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #104
She even tried to link Joe to the fact that a little white girl was told by her mother not to Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #167
She lived in northwest Berkeley it turns out ucrdem Jun 2019 #223
omg. Cha Jun 2019 #234
She is a lawyer. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #196
Her pain? Gimme a break. She is a highly successful attorney with a tough personality redstateblues Jun 2019 #180
That's not a world I would want to live in FreeState Jun 2019 #184
Joe shows empathy. Kamala not so much redstateblues Jun 2019 #189
Are you serious? angrychair Jun 2019 #163
Sadly I agree. Hillary has said more than once that Americans are not ready for a woman president Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #85
Sooooo angrychair Jun 2019 #166
It was faked and the 'I was that girl'...implying Biden hurt her...really disgusting. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #273
I don't buy that for one small second. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #325
You've replied to this one post of mine twice tishaLA Jun 2019 #330
Sorry...missed that. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #337
If it were me, I'd be more sorry tishaLA Jun 2019 #339
I didn't call her liar...now did I? But you know Sen. Harris did imply in her pre-planned attack Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #342
to fake something is, in fact, to lie tishaLA Jun 2019 #348
You can't be hurt that easily treestar Jun 2019 #100
Your reasoning is sounding like whats going on with abortion and the states womanofthehills Jun 2019 #144
This reminds me of the 2016 debate with Sec Clinton tishaLA Jun 2019 #22
I have nothing against preparing for debates. As I said in the OP, I was on debate teams for years. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #39
I go back to what I said: politicians prepare attack lines tishaLA Jun 2019 #47
You understand debate. Corgigal Jun 2019 #257
I want more than just debate skill, which is partly acting skill and partly logic and rhetoric, from highplainsdem Jun 2019 #258
It's part of the show. Corgigal Jun 2019 #259
I think after 8 years of GWB, then 8 of Obama, then 4 of Trump, it's be nice for RockRaven Jun 2019 #25
Not when it is cooked up nonsense... prepared would have been to argue issues...50 year old Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #327
and lord knows being cold and calculating is just for boys. mopinko Jun 2019 #28
Got it in one, mopinko Hekate Jun 2019 #217
You have to understand why all those candidates are there. Each one wants to WIN! napi21 Jun 2019 #31
Sometimes the best thing to do is apologize mountain grammy Jun 2019 #44
That's partly because his current schtick is "working across the aisle." localroger Jun 2019 #92
They all want to win. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #164
Biden should have seen that coming from two weeks away BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #34
yup. Not ready not electable floppyboo Jun 2019 #109
Joe just needs to get his "sea legs" under him. Im sure he'll be better prepared for the next debate InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2019 #429
His staff knew it was coming but DURHAM D Jun 2019 #121
He also didn't listen to them when they told him not to use his relationship with Eastland BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #129
I found that unsettling as well Raven123 Jun 2019 #35
Oh man jcgoldie Jun 2019 #38
That photo has been on the internet for months now and is in her book Kaleva Jun 2019 #46
Yes, it has. Thanks for posting. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #63
or the author of that article is just trying to be divisive. Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #55
Exactly why shouldn't she be prepared? Blue_true Jun 2019 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author Aaron Pereira Jun 2019 #64
coldly calculated or she was well planned and prepared IronLionZion Jun 2019 #65
Swalwell was calculating but not cold. Had he suggested that Biden was a racist then he would Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #77
Like it or not, politics is a dirty business... ADX Jun 2019 #68
Oh, you mean her... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2019 #69
Harris and Booker are still making hay as are many posters. And MSM is running a decent man into emmaverybo Jun 2019 #81
I don't see it as Biden and supporters harping, but the other way round. He is the outstanding Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #96
Thanks for pointing out the sexism. yardwork Jun 2019 #286
or Skittles Jun 2019 #75
HE SAID IT.. own it or get off the stage. N/T NO Gotchas. JustFiveMoreMinutes Jun 2019 #76
I disagree. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #82
I didn't see her defeating Trump. Biden is chivalrous in an old school way. He is also empathetic emmaverybo Jun 2019 #90
That's true, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #108
They should play cold, hard, even dirty with Republicans, Damaging any candidate's reputation emmaverybo Jun 2019 #201
She won't beat Trump...so we have to hope that Biden can win...I think he can. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #274
Cold and calculating is not what voters are after. Yes, removing the dotard is top priority Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #107
Call it what you will, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2019 #116
More than anything, this election depends on votes, on an electoral college pathway, on those votes. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #205
Well, I agree with your post more than mine. No reason debates can't be civil. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #225
Prior to the debate, Biden was polling 50% of the black vote in South Carolina. hay rick Jun 2019 #93
If Biden hadn't opened the door last week by mentioning segregationists, this wouldn't have happened Hoyt Jun 2019 #94
Yes it would have...the t-shirts and all the other crap show this was planned for a while... Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #324
Yeah, it would have been a lot better if she hadn't prepared and let your guy win, eh? Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #97
she is a former prosecutor and a skillful one at that AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #105
I wouldn't applaud. I like him because he has shown political skill without sacrificing integrity. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #123
all I am saying that this was a smart move for her AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #126
Exactement! Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #147
Here comes the spin machine, desperately trying to do damage control Tarc Jun 2019 #122
Meh Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #131
You are gloating prematurely. She tarnished herself a bit and tipped her hand too early in the game. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #136
or double down AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #140
Someone needs to pull up his big-boy pants Tarc Jun 2019 #264
Frankly, if she were a man Bettie Jun 2019 #125
She saw it as an effective debate move... it doesn't seem to be playing well Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #141
The point is that you seem very angry Bettie Jun 2019 #142
Not angry at all. She saw what she did as a way to go after her opponent Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #146
fyi, fivethirtyeight released a poll today shanny Jun 2019 #186
I predict that will be a temporary bump and she will drop back down soon Pachamama Jun 2019 #219
She might. The first debate may turn out to be shanny Jun 2019 #267
Amen! DesertRat Jun 2019 #214
Seems to me that her lady parts are being taken into DURHAM D Jun 2019 #127
She used a bid for sympathy for the "little girl" Biden had hurt, emoting righteous indignation emmaverybo Jun 2019 #157
+1,000,000. It was a very emotional "you hurt me" plea for sympathy, which IS effective highplainsdem Jun 2019 #181
Why? It bothers you that Dems Plan and Have a Strategy to Win? bitterross Jun 2019 #148
Meh. BlueWI Jun 2019 #150
Most politicians calculate every move they make and everything they say. ... spin Jun 2019 #152
The real Kamala was revealed last night. Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #159
I was impressed too. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #406
Are Male Politicians Ever Labeled as Calculating? dlk Jun 2019 #161
The repukes sure are. I often see calculating ascribed to McConnell. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #199
I would label Swalwell as calculating Bayard Jun 2019 #270
Swallwell Merely Repeated Biden's Own Words dlk Jun 2019 #278
Last night Kamala Harris gave us a preview of the knockout punch she'll deliver to Donald Trump mtnsnake Jun 2019 #162
Biden Isn't Very Deft In Such Matters DallasNE Jun 2019 #165
Whether her attack was right or wrong, depending on how you feel, calguy Jun 2019 #168
Agreed. BlueWI Jun 2019 #370
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #169
As a woman, I completely disagree with your generalization Pachamama Jun 2019 #220
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #241
10 days on DU and in single post to me, a member for 15 years, you manage to accuse me of sexism, Pachamama Jun 2019 #242
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #243
Now you say DU is full of Bigots? Pachamama Jun 2019 #247
I agree with you StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #246
It's called debate prep StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #170
If Kamala's attack was to get more POC on her side it doesn't Cha Jun 2019 #171
Me too Pepsidog Jun 2019 #172
I like Harris, but I said last night she was relying on yanking peoples chain emotionally. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #173
Thank you. Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #218
+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #380
Makes me wonder what Pics she has ready for her debate with Trump!! aeromanKC Jun 2019 #174
I would not bet on Trump agreeing to debate any Democrat. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #182
So.. Ztolkins Jun 2019 #177
Cue the crickets. BlueWI Jun 2019 #368
Booker has been all over him on the race issue Ztolkins Jul 2019 #390
Interesting angrychair Jun 2019 #190
Yeah, 'cause that's a first in politics... Hekate Jun 2019 #200
+1 SunSeeker Jun 2019 #233
+2 MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #250
It was pretty awesome and effective. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #209
What should bother you about that exchange is that Biden was not prepared for it. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #221
He defended his civil rights record forcefully. He corrected Harris on her key points. ucrdem Jun 2019 #226
He should have had a better response than defending state's rights. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #228
Biden didn't defend states rights and it's just plain lazy to claim that he did. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #229
Yes he did. How is it "lazy" to point out what he said? Come on. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #230
He didn't say it or allude to it last night. ucrdem Jun 2019 #231
He didn't say he opposed it because it was "massively hated," you did. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #232
Cory didn't say it either. And if he does he'll be wrong. ucrdem Jun 2019 #235
If Biden doesn't acknowledge his mistakes, he can't fix them. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #295
The point is that the press can call it states rights but Biden didn't and we shouldn't. ucrdem Jun 2019 #297
It's not a "lazy characterization." He clearly invoked a states rights argument. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #300
No, he did not. And you haven't provided any quotes to show otherwise. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #301
Yes I did. See posts 232 above. Here, I'll give it to you again: SunSeeker Jun 2019 #304
Those are press accounts, not Biden statements. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #306
Biden QUOTE: "...what I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education." SunSeeker Jun 2019 #307
No mentions of states rights. As I think I've pointed out once or twice. ucrdem Jun 2019 #308
Biden used the argument, not the term. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #334
The term he used is "local decision made by your city council." ucrdem Jul 2019 #413
Opposing federal mandate in favor of "local decision" is a states rights argument. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #415
School districts are not states. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #417
School districts are part of the local/state govt states rights advocates wanted trumping the feds. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #418
Her staged "moment" completely changed my opinion of her. democratisphere Jun 2019 #227
I've become undecided Lulu KC Jun 2019 #236
VP Biden must be able to handle the sudden, off the grid attacks... FarPoint Jun 2019 #239
You should be more bothered that Biden was unprepared... SidDithers Jun 2019 #244
If this was planned for months on her part it wouldn't have mattered what his answer was Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #379
Oh come on. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #248
I like Harris and Biden. The proper thing is to attack Rump's constant racism. Mc Mike Jun 2019 #251
Nothing wrong with having a plan underpants Jun 2019 #252
"coldly calculated" vs "more sympathetic and likeable" ehrnst Jun 2019 #253
Nailed it... SidDithers Jun 2019 #255
Yep. It's the same mistreatment Hillary got. nt. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #420
As a woman, I find it amusing that you think my opinion here is sexist. I supported highplainsdem Jun 2019 #266
Straw man, anyone? ehrnst Jun 2019 #268
I agree Bev54 Jun 2019 #318
+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #378
Please, McConnell is also cold and calculating. This Atlantic article even described him as such... Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #269
"Also"? McConnell is evil, and coldly conspired to illegally deprive Obama of a SCOTUS seat. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #421
She's a prosecutor. She comes prepared MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #262
Has anyone asked Senator Harris if she will campaigning on reinstating busing? emulatorloo Jun 2019 #345
Biden's support with AA voters following the debate jumped 18% Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #377
It made Warren the big winner of the night, to be honest. Eom tarheelsunc Jun 2019 #265
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #272
She's a career prosecutor, of course she is cold and calculating madville Jun 2019 #277
I have been saying, I am way more Perry Mason than Hamilton Burger. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #279
Somebody's Got to Say It yellowwoodII Jun 2019 #276
Didn't Hillary vote the same on the Iraq war? LakeArenal Jun 2019 #280
Yes, She Did yellowwoodII Jun 2019 #283
The Iraq war vote debate thing with him happened Thursday (and will again) It just got lost in the Celerity Jun 2019 #316
You are being sarcastic, right? Trueblue Texan Jun 2019 #281
I want candidates who are strategic and effective. yardwork Jun 2019 #284
Me, too. And ruthless in their attacks. Politicub Jun 2019 #287
Absolutely! This is not a tea party. yardwork Jun 2019 #289
It bothers me that Biden made a states rights argument Politicub Jun 2019 #285
same here..i even told hubby that now i feel harris will step all over others to get ahead.. samnsara Jun 2019 #288
Step over others? DU is driving me bananas this morning. Politicub Jun 2019 #292
"We need democrats to be more aggressive!!" Blue_Adept Jun 2019 #290
It was obviously planned, and at first I was taken aback with what seemed like crocodile tears... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #293
You honestly think Trump would care if he "hurt" her or that she could shame him? He'd just mug emmaverybo Jun 2019 #384
That is all too true, but shaming him isn't really the point, since... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #386
Good point. But her effectiveness to challenge Biden relied in part on discombobulating emmaverybo Jun 2019 #388
LOL @ "coldly calculated" vs "planned" Iggo Jun 2019 #294
Joe walked straight into a left hook in the main event slugfest, down for the count! Baclava Jun 2019 #299
I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden is so sensitive that the other candidates have to make nice dawg day Jun 2019 #310
He can't be tough...why she was a 'hurting little girl'...she played it so a gentleman like Biden's Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #333
Me too. And I was bussed around town to get to school. Rene Jun 2019 #315
Enough with the "coldly calculated" BS. shanny Jun 2019 #344
Yes, a man would be called "machiavellian" emulatorloo Jun 2019 #352
Doesn't bother me one bit. I'm bothered more by Biden not being ready Bucky Jun 2019 #350
It Was What It Was colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #355
Shows me she could deal with kim jung un very well. Irishxs Jun 2019 #359
Nah, he'd just say something hurtful LongtimeAZDem Jun 2019 #367
By saying he hurt her? Trying to make him say sorry to "that little girl?" And how much does emmaverybo Jun 2019 #383
Let me get this straight: a career prosecutor prepares a "gotcha" Recursion Jun 2019 #374
To compare how biden did against harris and how he will do against dotard is not a good comparison Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #400
Too bad Biden wasn't coldly calculating all the attacks that would be coming his way. He was TeamPooka Jun 2019 #375
He was caught being a gentleman that agreed not to attack other dems Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #376
This is politics not patty-cake... BlueJac Jun 2019 #385
Her story was misleading. She made herself the poster-girl for Federally mandated busing, but emmaverybo Jul 2019 #391
She did not "misrepresent herself." Nothing she said was a lie. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #419
Yes. Berkley Ca. for the past 150 years has been a liberal bastion. In fact, it has a emmaverybo Jul 2019 #422
Oh come on. The Bay Area has a long history of segregation. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #423
The free speech movement was about civil rights, not just saying the F word. Harris's school board emmaverybo Jul 2019 #425
As Harris pointed out, Berkeley did not integrate until 2 decades after Brown v. Bd. Of Ed. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #428
Gives me a lot to think about. Thanks. More fed money for schools, but people need housing help, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #431
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Jul 2019 #424
It was unnecessary wiley Jul 2019 #426
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