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Bussing never worked and everyone hated it. Equality in education democratisphere Jun 2019 #1
When would it have come along? Because it's nearly 50 years later and we're nowhere close. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #2
When? When communities offered voluntary busing. When it became a choice not a mandate. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #4
Do I think Jackson MS would offer voluntary busing? dawg day Jun 2019 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #56
Why are you saying that? Who are you saying it to? dawg day Jun 2019 #57
That picture customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #71
They didn't claim it was from the 1970s StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #73
That is a relevant photo customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #74
No. The point of the photo as I saw it was to ask someone who said StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #76
Observant and quick. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #77
My point was that THIS-- what the picture showed- came before busing dawg day Jun 2019 #86
I don't have to answer to you. What would you have done? Do you. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #103
To be honest... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2019 #102
According to VP Biden, we should apparently let these things be up to the states KitSileya Jun 2019 #75
well.. why don't we ask some REAL experts about Biden ...John Lewis and Jim Clyburn to start Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #79
Why did you reference Jackson Michigan ? MichMan Jun 2019 #82
That's where Medgar Evers did his integration activism and was assassinated for it- dawg day Jun 2019 #88
In Michigan??? MichMan Jun 2019 #92
Oh, sorry, you're right. Jackson MS dawg day Jun 2019 #95
Even after integration.. cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #110
If anything, it is worse. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #5
When substantial investment was made in community schools to provide equal quality in emmaverybo Jun 2019 #26
But it has not. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #3
Wait what AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #11
I grew up in a suburb in L.A., mostly white and middle class happyaccident Jun 2019 #15
The program made my parents extremely angry. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #29
I did not hate it. We had it for only one generation of students delisen Jun 2019 #33
Do you mean White people hated it? sacto95834 Jun 2019 #45
correct K&R onetexan Jun 2019 #54
When will that start? Bettie Jun 2019 #87
'Forced busing' didn't fail. Desegregation is the best way to improve our schools. Celerity Jun 2019 #93
When? Chitown Kev Jun 2019 #121
This and here is the history.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #6
I will read the link, and thank you for it. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8
No Problem... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #10
Just heard Professor Kehinde Andrews of Birmingham University KitSileya Jun 2019 #78
Well stated. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #97
Biden's problen is that he worked with known racists to oppose bussing. bluewater Jun 2019 #7
Some had other reasons to oppose busing. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #9
This 'ISSUE' was a political maneuver by Harris. Period. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #12
The "issue" is based on actual history and fact. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #14
She created this issue on the back of Biden to exploit. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #22
Are you suggesting she has a time machine? AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #24
Nicely done. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #27
It is refreshing AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #30
Yes, it is. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #32
It is quite interesting! AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #44
Were we talking about busing yesterday? Are you taking the word 'created' literally. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #38
It came up, over the political character of a candidate. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #43
Hey let's just keep doing the work for the pukes and we can send someone into the general UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #49
I don't care if a Democrat shoots someone on 5th avenue either. marylandblue Jun 2019 #94
If you don't want candidates that know how to play to win, what's the point of showing up to the AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #144
1972 wyldwolf Jun 2019 #13
True, but to your point: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #17
When busing was removed from the mix, the support for school desegration doubled wyldwolf Jun 2019 #21
Busing a tool, not an end StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #37
Has busing been "removed from the mix?" My kid was bused in 2003 to a different middle school dawg day Jun 2019 #89
We're referring to a poll where busing was removed from the equation and treated as a separate issue wyldwolf Jun 2019 #90
"Clearly compulsory busing was unpopular with a vast majority of Americans" bluewater Jun 2019 #19
It's 50 freaking years ago...sorry you can't move on and it's so 'indefensible'. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #23
Not apologizing for it now is indefensible. bluewater Jun 2019 #31
Oh yes the original sin...being 'civil' to racist dixiecrats. UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #36
Don't forget working with them in the Senate to oppose bussing. bluewater Jun 2019 #40
Oh my god he opposed busing which his constituents also opposed. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #42
but he didnt say that during the debate AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #112
If what happened "50 freaking years ago" is irrelevant, why did he bring it up? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #145
But that's beside the point. Goodheart Jun 2019 #20
And in 1978, the judge in Evans v. Buchanan had enough of Delaware's bullshit jberryhill Jun 2019 #35
Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #60
Thanks for the factual background. BlueWI Jun 2019 #67
Well polls indicated racism and segregation were quite popular then, too. Hoyt Jun 2019 #52
Damned straight jberryhill Jun 2019 #63
The 70s called and want their issues back treestar Jun 2019 #70
Agreed customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #72
Here are Biden's own words Goodheart Jun 2019 #16
As I noted, busing was a response to second class schools and opportunities. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #18
That's beside the point. Maybe he should have used that in his defense? Goodheart Jun 2019 #25
Possibly. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #28
Put a person in a corner and then make them chose between two options to answer a complex emmaverybo Jun 2019 #34
LOL. Get real. Goodheart Jun 2019 #39
That is true, but racism is so endemic to the system guillaumeb Jun 2019 #46
And she was bused on a voluntary system. Her parents were highly educated; not all if Berkley emmaverybo Jun 2019 #48
She is a non-white female running in a very racist, very misogynistic country. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #50
She should be confronting THEM. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #51
And she will. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #58
In other words, confront the guy who isn't an actual proud and flagrant racist supported by emmaverybo Jun 2019 #66
Bravo!! Well said Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #81
She has blunted legitimate attacks on true racists R B Garr Jun 2019 #107
YES. Unfortunately for no other reason. She is not confronting racists or racism in America, but emmaverybo Jun 2019 #111
It's a very questionable strategy about racism, for sure. R B Garr Jun 2019 #120
I'm trying to understand the picture you're painting of Sen. Harris. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #84
Thank you! Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #85
You are welcome. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #98
Indeed and the polls prove it Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #80
No. Integration was a response to segregation in schools. Busing was one method to achieve a goal. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #41
Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #47
Busing was simply the method of transporting students to the new schools they were assigned to StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #134
I have to laugh Dan Jun 2019 #55
Yes indeed. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #61
Yep jberryhill Jun 2019 #64
The first day of forced busing in Lubbock, Tx. resulted in a dead Black student... czarjak Jun 2019 #59
Separate but equal was invented by racists to justify segregation. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #62
Where I lived working class Blacks and Whites lived literally right beside Blue_true Jun 2019 #65
Here's the thing jberryhill Jun 2019 #68
In the Deep South, it was economics. Blue_true Jun 2019 #69
Sundown laws were more common in the north unc70 Jun 2019 #91
And segregation does not need to be written into the law. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #106
BS wyldwolf Jun 2019 #96
Black people were bused to inferior schools, often pass White schools. Blue_true Jun 2019 #99
Your reply makes zero sense. wyldwolf Jun 2019 #100
You just don't get it. Blue_true Jun 2019 #104
NO it was not wyldwolf Jun 2019 #113
The information that I gave was summarized from Wikipedia and an NPR story about public Blue_true Jun 2019 #114
Wikipedia and NPR? Link? Or was it your intepretation? wyldwolf Jun 2019 #116
Show me your links. I read both information sources and both agreed, that is Blue_true Jun 2019 #118
So your response is "show me your links first?" LOL. You have none. wyldwolf Jun 2019 #119
i was bused in late grade school. went to an early magnet school. i loved it. pansypoo53219 Jun 2019 #83
Not in Berkeley, California, it wasn't... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #101
To your points: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #105
So again, are you going to argue that housing prices are something to be regulated by the federal RHMerriman Jun 2019 #108
Segregation by race impacts how people can accumulate wealth. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #109
And segregation by race in housing via restricted convenants has been illegal since 1948 RHMerriman Jun 2019 #117
The issue is not moot. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #122
Then have the 'threateners" investigated and face the consequences of their actions RHMerriman Jun 2019 #123
So it is that easy? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #126
Does that mean to combat it you're going to argue the federal government RHMerriman Jun 2019 #128
We will agree to disagree. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #129
Yes, and now that it is illegal, racism has disappeared. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #124
Yeah, crime doesn't disappear when it is made illegal. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #125
Actually, it was a response to mandates resulting from Brown v. Board of Education, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #115
This excellent response deserves to be its own post. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #127
I was bussed so have first hand experience. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #130
Busing was an attempt at forced integration. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #131
Busing was simply the method of transporting students to the new schools StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #132
Excellent point. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #133
in my personal experience, limited as it might be, it was indeed the bus. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #135
I hear you StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #136
I wonder if the time frame and geography played a role. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #137
Busing didn't push them away. Desegregation did. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #138
I respect your opinion. And In a majority of cases it is true. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #139
I understand and appreciate your perspective StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #140
Good points. But I do think there were better alternatives. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #141
A lot of these remedies are great on concept but either unworkable or too slow StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #142
There we agree. Hindsight is always 20/20. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #143
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