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guillaumeb

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19. To your points:
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jun 2019

FWIW, the Berkeley public schools were NOT de jure segregated by race, as well;
attendance was organized by residential neighborhoods, which meant de facto by wealth, but unless you're going to say housing prices are something to be regulated by the federal government, it's a moot point.


In a country where wealth is racially unequal, this de facto segregation by wealth was the result of earlier de jure segregation by race.

And that segregation has never been eliminated.

Yes, Harris did not grow up in a slum, but she and her parents knew how they were regarded by many white Americans.

And Harris did not say she was underprivileged, she said she was treated unequally.

As to the two candidates, and their support, Biden has enormous name recognition stretching for decades versus Harris being largely unknown outside of California.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
marketing shirts. does the DNC get a cut of the sales? nt msongs Jun 2019 #1
Probably not ... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #2
+ 1000 emmaverybo Jun 2019 #4
Thanks... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #8
Thanks for the facts. Saddling fellow Democrats with inane R B Garr Jun 2019 #16
When I was in the service, we had a term for this kind of activity... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #21
Oh! Just looked up that term, and it seems to fit. R B Garr Jun 2019 #34
Doesn't it, though? RHMerriman Jun 2019 #38
Mahalo for telling us about Barbara Boxer Cha Jun 2019 #62
Hi Cha! Boxer was great. Made me miss her a lot. She was not inflammatory R B Garr Jun 2019 #69
Thank you for that, RB! Cha Jun 2019 #70
To your points: guillaumeb Jun 2019 #19
why would they? TeamPooka Jun 2019 #64
That's called preparation. Arkansas Granny Jun 2019 #3
Misrepresenting herself was part and parcel of that preparation. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #7
Are you suggesting that she wasn't part of the second group of children tishaLA Jun 2019 #17
Well said. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #18
Harris was bused in a program her local school board voted for unanimously. She was not bused emmaverybo Jun 2019 #22
She never claimed she was bused under federal mandate tishaLA Jun 2019 #23
Her story was about a little girl whose attending a better school would have been prevented by emmaverybo Jun 2019 #28
Show me where in the transcript that happened tishaLA Jun 2019 #31
She does not have to add that she was bused under a local program, not through federally mandated emmaverybo Jun 2019 #40
You still haven't told me where in the transcript she said the things tishaLA Jun 2019 #41
I guess you don't understand "imply." But she did. She understood exactly what she was implying. And emmaverybo Jun 2019 #42
No, I understand that some may have an emotional interpretation tishaLA Jun 2019 #43
The meaning in text or speech depends on context, situation, what is said and not said, how said, emmaverybo Jun 2019 #45
Signature, Event, Context (SEC) tishaLA Jun 2019 #47
He was not prepared well enough. And she misled and used manipulative tactics to attack her emmaverybo Jun 2019 #49
She told the truth about him lauding the civility of segregationists tishaLA Jun 2019 #50
Right, he respected the mutual civility he and those of opposing viewpoints used to "get the job emmaverybo Jun 2019 #51
Yes, praising the "civility" of those who advocate tishaLA Jun 2019 #52
The quick answer to this is an example. Igel Jun 2019 #55
You can go after Derrida all you want. I'm not interested nor am I playing tishaLA Jun 2019 #56
Interesting. Very. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author OnDoutside Jun 2019 #63
you are either deliberately misrepresenting her potition in her anecdote or it went over TeamPooka Jun 2019 #65
I watched the exchange and read the transcript. The poster is correct. ucrdem Jun 2019 #67
I just made another donation to Joe. Laurian Jun 2019 #5
You reminded me. Our small donations do say "with you Joe" and they add up! NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #46
It was too rote for it to have been a spur of the moment emotion. George II Jun 2019 #6
One candidate strategized, planned and prepared... SidDithers Jun 2019 #9
+100000 nt Andy823 Jun 2019 #11
I don't think anyone "feels" bad for Biden. He was just being himself..a gentleman and a scholar Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #12
One attacked a fellow Democrat... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #13
She certainly didn't do herself any favors..poll bump or not Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #10
if it helped her and hurt him in polls how can you say it did her no favors ? JI7 Jun 2019 #15
One's reputation and trustworthiness goes beyond polls. Win or lose, those who practice "stunts." emmaverybo Jun 2019 #48
This Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #57
I am not sure she gets a poll bump. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #25
If she does, she will have to earn it honestly in future to sustain it. She can not continue to emmaverybo Jun 2019 #30
True that...and the long knives will now be out...I hate to see a circular firing squad forming...we Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #32
I agree. Don't know why I thought this might be different. Well, maybe a learning curve. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #33
I think that's clear. cwydro Jun 2019 #14
I was looking at the tweeted picture Jarqui Jun 2019 #20
Harris was bused under a program her local school board voted for, not by Federal mandate. Biden emmaverybo Jun 2019 #24
The entire thing was fake and looked contrived as more info comes out...my guess is she takes Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #27
Your last sentence says it all Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #58
If it was months in the making, then Biden had plenty of time to prepare for it. Paladin Jun 2019 #26
prepare for a question about a 50 year old failed policy? Sorry she looked bad...only a matter of Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #29
You're not going to like Maureen Dowd's column in today's NYT. Paladin Jun 2019 #35
She has done hit piece after hit piece...lets see what happens...the media is doing their best to Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #36
A heads up anyway...I still say that Harris's attacks will backfire and that few voters care about a Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #37
Maureen Dowd is no friend to any democrat Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #59
I bet you wont like the polls now showing Biden lost well nothing and Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #68
I might accept that if her challenge was fair and accurate Jarqui Jun 2019 #39
How is it a "hit job"? brooklynite Jun 2019 #44
The busing decision that directly affected Kamala Harris happened Jarqui Jun 2019 #54
NOBODY in the Democratic field has more experience than Joe Biden. Paladin Jun 2019 #66
Really? "Kamala" and "Biden"? Why not "Harris" and "Joe"? Glorfindel Jun 2019 #53
Honestly, that level of preparation is impressive BUT... ecstatic Jun 2019 #61
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