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StarfishSaver

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49. She never claimed she benefitted from court-orderd busing

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:05 PM

Jun 2019

She said she benefitted from busing and said Biden opposed busing.

Biden then tried to differentiate between "voluntary" and "court-ordered" busing and claimed he opposed the latter but supported the former. That's not true.

He opposed both court-ordered and voluntary busing and court-ordered busing and, in fact, introduced legislation that would have defunded and otherwise undermined the kind of voluntary program Harris participated in. His amendment didn't just target voluntary busing - it targeted only voluntary busing and didn't affect court-ordered busing at all, as Biden explained at the time.

Biden's amendment passed the Senate - with the help of Eastland and other segregationists - but fortunately, the House stripped Biden's anti-busing measure out of the final bill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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"Redlining" forced black Berkeley residents like Kamala's family to live west of MLK Way. [View all] pnwmom Jun 2019 OP

Oh but we are told that segregation is illegal. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #1

Harris grew up in Montreal - her mother moved there when she was 12 years old. George II Jun 2019 #2

"Redlining" restricted home ownership, and was in play in the 1940s and 1950s RHMerriman Jun 2019 #3

Wrong. The Fair Housing Act banned discrimination in sales and rentals of housing, pnwmom Jun 2019 #4

Rumford Act passed in California in 1963, and affirmed by the state Supreme Court in 1965. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #8

Yes, they were affected by racism in their housing and school choices. And it's disheartening to me pnwmom Jun 2019 #10

How, exactly? RHMerriman Jun 2019 #12

Her mother was single by the time Kamala was in school, and still in grad school, pnwmom Jun 2019 #14

Her father was full-time faculty at Illinois in 1966, same year he graduated from Cal... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #16

When my husband was on the faculty of a comparable public university 13 years LATER pnwmom Jun 2019 #22

Apparently the Harrises were still married until 1970-71, at which point RHMerriman Jun 2019 #36

So what? Social science assistant/associate professors WITH FELLOWSHIPS pnwmom Jun 2019 #42

According to the source linked here: RHMerriman Jun 2019 #43

You know much too little about this topic to try to lord over anyone about it, much less get snarky StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #18

+ 1000 tishaLA Jun 2019 #21

Apparently not... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #37

You are glossing over how redlining worked and how hard it was to stop it. Blue_true Jun 2019 #35

Any evidence that either of the senator's parents - Dr. Goyalan or Dr. Harris - were unable to buy RHMerriman Jun 2019 #41

Bingo. ucrdem Jun 2019 #7

It's sure as hell not Hunter's Point or Watts, either... RHMerriman Jun 2019 #9

Yes. ucrdem Jun 2019 #11

Really impressive, that having two PHd parents, one of which we KNOW was employed RHMerriman Jun 2019 #13

Yep. ucrdem Jun 2019 #15

Nope. RHMerriman Jun 2019 #17

And it's not Richmond/San Pablo either, where I spent some time. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #51

Redlining was taking place into the 1990s. Blue_true Jun 2019 #34

Than how was she bused as a young child? Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #5

She was living in Berkeley UNTIL she was 12. That's where she was bused. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #6

I see... doesn't really matter I guess...she won't get my support in a primary...general sure but Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #19

Her local school board voted unanimously to approve integrating schools and implemented the emmaverybo Jun 2019 #31

Okay. IluvPitties Jun 2019 #20

Because many here have been trying to argue that Kamala's story of having to be bused pnwmom Jun 2019 #23

No, no one argued that. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #24

Lots of people argued that, including right here. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #26

Where exactly? ucrdem Jun 2019 #27

We're not supposed to call out people. Just read through the responses here. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #28

Outside your threads I don't see any such claims. nt ucrdem Jun 2019 #29

I'm talking about some of the responses to my threads. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #30

No one has denied that she was bused. The issue is whether it was federally mandated. ucrdem Jun 2019 #32

I get that. IluvPitties Jun 2019 #25

No. But whether the federal government should have a say in local civil rights enforcement is StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #40

Actually, it also looks like Kamala will need to answer why R B Garr Jun 2019 #47

Her story implied that she was bused under federally mandated law, which Biden had opposed. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #33

Some of Biden's anti-busing legislation didn't affect only court-ordered busing StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #38

Apparently it didn't, according to Kamala's own example. nt R B Garr Jun 2019 #48

The senator also has glossed over the reality she lived a privileged life RHMerriman Jun 2019 #39

Nobody implied that. Biden's are gunner was local desegregation was ok with him. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #44

I don't question her reasons for supporting federally mandated busing, but she emmaverybo Jun 2019 #45

She never claimed she benefitted from court-orderd busing StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #49

She implied it. Otherwise, why use herself as an example to personalize an attack on his vote emmaverybo Jun 2019 #53

It's exactly what I said StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #54

No. Berkley school board would have done it. I am not talking about any other locality or state. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #55

Do you know what Biden' amendment said and what it would have done? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #56

I am not arguing his anti-busing support. She misrepresented herself. Period. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #57

You can keep saying that until your batteries run out StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #58

Could that amendment have included compromises? treestar Jun 2019 #60

Biden's amendment didn't include any compromises. It was a straight up prohibition. StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #62

I wonder why she didn't just leave that out and stick to treestar Jun 2019 #59

Biden tried to stop the kinda of programs that Harris participated in StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #61

I don't expect Biden to recall things by the day treestar Jul 2019 #63

Ok StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #64

Has Kamala ever talked about being redlined? R B Garr Jun 2019 #46

You can be part of a movement and still get fucked over. RandySF Jun 2019 #50

It just seems there would be some history/awareness that they were redlined even R B Garr Jun 2019 #52