She's in a tough spot. (Reply #40) - Democratic Underground

In the discussion thread: Elizabeth Warren: 'I am not a' Democratic Socialist [View all]

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Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:18 PM

Garrett78 (10,721 posts)

40. She's in a tough spot.

Warren and Sanders seem to appeal to the same constituency, but Sanders has a larger following and more money. Meanwhile, Warren is going to have a really hard time competing against Harris, O'Rourke, Biden, Inslee, etc.

I like Warren but she's not very charismatic. And the ancestry matter has hurt her.

Also, only Sanders and Biden are older than Warren among those in the race or expected to join the race. Due to sexism, age is likely to be a bigger problem for her than for those other two. But the fact of the matter is, the vast majority of presidents have been considerably younger than those three (along with Inslee and Hickenlooper). Our electorate has consistently favored younger candidates, partly (though not entirely) due to them having developed less baggage. The average age of the last 5 Democratic presidents was 48 upon taking office.

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81 replies	Author	Time	Post
Elizabeth Warren: 'I am not a' Democratic Socialist [View all]	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	OP
At the end of the day people care about whether you represent them	Tiggeroshii	Mar 2019	#1
Exactly right!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Mar 2019	#10
WRONG	Horizens	Mar 2019	#26
The NBC/WSJ recently cited by Brooklynite is a reality check.	empedocles	Mar 2019	#30
I totally agree!	Honeycombe8	Mar 2019	#54
Of course.. why would she be labeled	Cha	Mar 2019	#2
I doubt it. I read reports of that meeting at the time	Eric J in MN	Mar 2019	#11
conversation with "Sanders in which he reportedly discouraged her from running for president"	JI7	Mar 2019	#3
That's certainly a "Say what now?" sentence.	OnDoutside	Mar 2019	#6
I read reports of the meeting which didn't say that.	Eric J in MN	Mar 2019	#12
She did not deny it.	backabby-blue	Mar 2019	#21
CNN alluded to the conversation in their report, and Warren neither confirmed nor denied.	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#52
Taking the position that a private conversation is private	Eric J in MN	Mar 2019	#65
It was a brilliant answer. N/T	lapucelle	Mar 2019	#67
Her progressive achievements would be head and shoulders	Hortensis	Mar 2019	#4
Agreed!	True Blue American	Mar 2019	#7
She's tough, has accomplishments, and can produce concrete policy proposals	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#27
Another thread that was bemoaning our lost morality, as if we	Hortensis	Mar 2019	#46
Very well said	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#47
Translation	forklift	Mar 2019	#5
As it should be.	True Blue American	Mar 2019	#8
and the fact that she actually is not a socalist . supporting social security, even break up of	JI7	Mar 2019	#13
Breaking up monopolist companies is 'Progressive'	crazytown	Mar 2019	#19
I said it wasn't socialist	JI7	Mar 2019	#22
According to MorningJoke, anyone who won't say they're a "capitalist" or who is against	CousinIT	Mar 2019	#15
so you're saying	forklift	Mar 2019	#17
OK. Call it "Social Democracy"	CousinIT	Mar 2019	#18
What I see in the so called democratic socialists	forklift	Mar 2019	#24
Yes! That behavior is intrinsic to POPULISM, though populists	Hortensis	Mar 2019	#55
You expressed it far better than I could ever have! nt	forklift	Mar 2019	#63
Newsflash: I'm not a Bernie Sanders supporter.	CousinIT	Mar 2019	#59
Maybe it is time for a new political party for such a passion	forklift	Mar 2019	#64
In the U.S. FDR would be called a l i b e r a l.	DemocratSinceBirth	Mar 2019	#23
The Democratic Party supports capitalism, with some social programs.	Honeycombe8	Mar 2019	#56
Counter challenge that:	Aussie105	Mar 2019	#9
i watched part of that interview.	Kurt V.	Mar 2019	#14
Nor am I...	Mike Nelson	Mar 2019	#16
The U S has had a capitalist economy from the start. At some point,	Honeycombe8	Mar 2019	#57
Sounds good to me...	Mike Nelson	Mar 2019	#68
All advanced western democracies except us embrace Social Democracy.	Blue_true	Mar 2019	#73
Ironically, given how people misuse the term, she is probably the most neoliberal candidate running	Recursion	Mar 2019	#20
Neoliberal? So she's like Margaret Thatcher? Believes in trickle down economics? A thousand	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#28
I mean, yes: she voted for Ronald Reagan twice, and George H W Bush twice	Recursion	Mar 2019	#31
"Bernie has to speak to what Democratic Socialism is"	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#25
Then let Bernie educate voters on his positions. It's not Warren's job	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#29
Never said it was	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#32
Democrats have long been the champions of social programs.	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#33
OK	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#39
Ah yes, we all remember the day Obama cut Social Security and Medicare	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#45
I said he wanted to, not that he did	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#49
Or he was bluffing to paint Boehner in a corner and show Republicans were acting in bad faith	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#69
She is not indicting the existing social safety net, ALL of her policy proposals have been about how	Blue_true	Mar 2019	#77
Exactly. nt	Blue_true	Mar 2019	#76
She said that she is not a democratic socialist. Bernie says that he is one.	Blue_true	Mar 2019	#75
Exactly. nt	Blue_true	Mar 2019	#74
It's not her job to explain his positions to voters.	TwilightZone	Mar 2019	#58
Please see above	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#60
No, it really wasn't.	TwilightZone	Mar 2019	#61
huh?	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#62
Who else remembers when Sen. Warren was Bernie before Bernie was Bernie?	OilemFirchen	Mar 2019	#34
Yes, every progressive/left liberal I know wanted her to run in 2016	emulatorloo	Mar 2019	#35
I recently saw her interview on The Beat with Ari and I thought she was	saljr1	Mar 2019	#36
Why do these people keep falling for the label-making?	grumpyduck	Mar 2019	#37
Elizabeth Warren--being super smart--knows that she's not a "Democratic Socialist."	CrossingTheRubicon	Mar 2019	#38
She's in a tough spot.	Garrett78	Mar 2019	#40
Very true	Lazy Daisy	Mar 2019	#50
So many wrong assumptions here	Bradshaw3	Mar 2019	#78
I like Warren and Democratic Socialists	Carrito	Mar 2019	#41
I have no trouble believing her on that.	MineralMan	Mar 2019	#42
I would phrase the sentence as,	TexasTowelie	Mar 2019	#44
I choose my words carefully.	MineralMan	Mar 2019	#66
Elizabeth Warren has said this before	peggysue2	Mar 2019	#43
Interesting that Elizabeth Warren is being attacked on DU as a "neoliberal."	CrossingTheRubicon	Mar 2019	#48
Laugh anyway.	TwilightZone	Mar 2019	#53
Nobody is perfect.	CentralMass	Mar 2019	#51
Cool. Ideological diversity.	David__77	Mar 2019	#70
Opinion: The myth of ideology, and why Democrats' energy isn't all on the left	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#71
She's got that in her favor. She understands that it's a	NurseJackie	Mar 2019	#72
K&R	stonecutter357	Mar 2019	#79
That is practically the same thing Kamala Harris said, and they both aren't. I am somewhat surprise	still_one	Mar 2019	#80
Trump plans to hit Democrats on "socialism" but faces own vulnerabilities	Gothmog	Mar 2019	#81

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