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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie invoking Hillary [View all]Gothmog
(145,046 posts)176. I stand with the members of the Congressional Black Caucus on this change
The CBC and other groups of super delegates will be fighting this idiotic rule change https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/11/bernie-sanders-dnc-superdelegates-710818
A band of Democratic National Committee superdelegates is staging a revolt against a Bernie Sanders-endorsed plan to reduce their influence in the presidential nominating process, mounting a longshot bid to block the measure when the DNC meets in Chicago next month.
The proposal, a priority of Sanders supporters since the Vermont senators defeat in a bitterly contested 2016 primary, would prohibit superdelegates who made up roughly 15 percent of the delegates during the 2016 convention from voting on the first presidential nominating ballot at a contested national convention.
But even as the DNCs Rules and Bylaws Committee moved forward with the proposal Wednesday, superdelegates outside of Washington were beginning to organize opposition ahead of the August vote by the full DNC in Chicago.
The proposal, a priority of Sanders supporters since the Vermont senators defeat in a bitterly contested 2016 primary, would prohibit superdelegates who made up roughly 15 percent of the delegates during the 2016 convention from voting on the first presidential nominating ballot at a contested national convention.
But even as the DNCs Rules and Bylaws Committee moved forward with the proposal Wednesday, superdelegates outside of Washington were beginning to organize opposition ahead of the August vote by the full DNC in Chicago.
I prefer to have the support of the Congressional Black Caucus over the support of the persons pushing this rule. It is a long shot but I hope that this rule is defeated
I agree with this super delegate
Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), who accused Perez of flinching in the face of criticism of the superdelegate process, called the proposal a craven capitulation to what [Perez] describes as a perception of elitism.
Connolly, like other opponents of the plan, argued that disenfranchising the elected leadership of the party would disconnect elected leaders from the partys presidential ticket, ultimately weakening its prospects in 2020.
I also believe the timing is wretched, Connolly said. Were in the midst of the battle of our lives to win back the majority of our House, and to schedule this vote with this recommendation that came out of nowhere is to me just wretched timing and political malpractice.
Connolly, like other opponents of the plan, argued that disenfranchising the elected leadership of the party would disconnect elected leaders from the partys presidential ticket, ultimately weakening its prospects in 2020.
I also believe the timing is wretched, Connolly said. Were in the midst of the battle of our lives to win back the majority of our House, and to schedule this vote with this recommendation that came out of nowhere is to me just wretched timing and political malpractice.
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The most galling part of it is that he said he was going to "flip" those superdelegates
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#4
I don' agree...going to a almost certain two vote accomplishes nothing...and invites
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#182
No we don't. Why not work with your local party, work your way up, and maybe YOU can be...
George II
Mar 2019
#70
Open primaries are wrong for the same reason.... only VOTERS who are Democrats
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#71
Agree that Dems should be the ones deciding, but that wouldn't help Sanders.
TwilightZone
Mar 2019
#108
With the number of candidates that probably will be "alive" at the convention, probably no one...
George II
Mar 2019
#69
This isn't going to help. Divisiveness will put an end to his candidacy, again, as it did before
SFnomad
Mar 2019
#21
Seriously, Cha, why is he doing this? Does he expect 16.9 million Hillary voters to turn on her
lunamagica
Mar 2019
#32
So? It's also the truth that he lost to her by 4 million votes. Is he broadcasting that?
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#38
Yes -- the superdelegates were just a bonus for her -- not needed for her win. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#163
The facts are that the superdelegates disproportionately delared for one candidate early and that
CentralMass
Mar 2019
#43
If a member of Congress endorsed her, then by definition "a superdelegate declared."
StevieM
Mar 2019
#93
All I said was Bernie stated FACT... has ZERO to do with what you're talking about.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#148
You seemed to endorse Central Mass's revisionist history/Bernie's false insinuatations
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#153
Sanders knew the process of the Democratic nomination before he entered it
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#74
BS didn't even share one full year ... he only shared just the summary pages n/t
SFnomad
Mar 2019
#125
I gotta note that when Weaver was crowing about his strategery to flip superdelegates
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#120
Obviously... but, hey, one should never miss an opportunity to bash Bernie!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#64
He chose run as a "Democrat", and then whined like a child about the rules
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#76
So what? Over 200 of those endorsements came from BS's Congressional colleagues. N/T
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#100
I know, right? If I say, "The guy that currently lives at 1600 Pennsylvania is a rat bastard",
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#107
Aww so adorable. Who do you think "my opponent" referred to? Lincoln Chaffee?
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#121
His "challenging situation" was entirely of his own making. He chose to use a party that he was not
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#136
Almost seems like Bernie's making a valid point that the established superdelegate system is unfair
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2019
#72
No, seems like he's being intellectually dishonest and smearing real voters
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#115
Things like that serve NO good purpose whatsoever. Pride and vanity, at the expense of the party...
NurseJackie
Mar 2019
#156
The strategy of getting those SD upfront was not to stop Sanders, but probably Joe Biden
karynnj
Mar 2019
#79
Same three Bernie or Busters in this thread spewing the same old nonsense. It's like a time machine!
Squinch
Mar 2019
#82
It is over the top and it is very transparent. I don't think the playbook is going to work this
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#118
Yep, and that puts posters here in a bind. Can we talk about the last primary if in response
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#104
Yeh well he lost because more Primary Voters voted HRC. Superdelegates had nothing to do with
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#110
It's not that it isn't true, it's that it's deplorably hypocritical when he just recently said:
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#126
Of course they booed. His base is loyal only to him, not to the Democratic party.
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#132
I don't think it's hatred for Clinton; I think it is hatred for the party.
LongtimeAZDem
Mar 2019
#138