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pnwmom

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13. You mean, he didn't say, "When I worked with the segregationist racists

Thu Jul 4, 2019, 04:38 PM

Jul 2019

on my anti-busing bill"?

He wasn't thinking very clearly if he thought he could talk about working with them without having to deal with questions about what he worked with them on.

And their positions still don't align. Harris isn't against the kind of busing program her district had (and Berkeley still has a busing program to promote socio-economic and racial integration -- just not the same one they had before.)

But Biden wasn't just opposed to Federally ordered desegregation for districts that had purposely assigned students to segregated schools; he was also against busing for de facto segregation , which is what they had in Berkeley (caused by segregation in housing, because of deed covenants and redlining). Harris says she benefited from Berkeley's busing.

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2019/06/24/bidens-segregation-comments-resurrect-his-anti-busing-history.html

Biden’s position then, which he has reiterated since, was that he didn’t support transporting students between racially isolated schools as a remedy for de facto segregation, the descriptor for racial isolation that wasn’t caused by explicitly discriminatory laws.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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When was the last time busing was a major talking point in a presidential election? [View all] Otto Lidenbrock Jul 2019 OP

It's not a major talking point now EffieBlack Jul 2019 #1

And to think Biden brought this all up bluewater Jul 2019 #2

When did Biden bring "this all up", specifically? George II Jul 2019 #4

When he talked about days past, when he could even work "across the aisle" pnwmom Jul 2019 #6

But his recent comments NEVER mentioned busing until it was brought up by others. George II Jul 2019 #10

The definitions of Quibbling and Hair-Splitting come to mind: bluewater Jul 2019 #12

How about the definition of "bring this all up", which seems to be avoided. George II Jul 2019 #24

You mean, he didn't say, "When I worked with the segregationist racists pnwmom Jul 2019 #13

That article mentions "busing" 19 times, not a SINGLE one uttered by Biden. I rest my case. George II Jul 2019 #16

So? He incorrectly thought he could highlight his work with segregationists without reminding people pnwmom Jul 2019 #18

The bottom line is, as hard as some are trying to "prove" it, Biden never brought up busing in 2019. George II Jul 2019 #19

Then it's reasonable to question his judgment. pnwmom Jul 2019 #20

It wasn't Biden. And the date is June 30, 1977 (42 years ago), not June 2019. George II Jul 2019 #21

Who wasn't Biden? Biden brought up the topic of working with Eastland/Talmadge decades ago. pnwmom Jul 2019 #22

diminishing returns bluewater Jul 2019 #23

You asked who released the letter. My answer was that it wasn't Biden. George II Jul 2019 #26

No, he opened the door wide in 2019 by bringing up the topic of working with the segregationists pnwmom Jul 2019 #28

So if he said he had lunch at a Suchi Bar he would have opened the door.... George II Jul 2019 #30

weak sauce, weak Sushi sauce actually... bluewater Jul 2019 #32

Not the sauce (with a "C") in which I dip my Sushi. George II Jul 2019 #34

Quibbling and Hair Splitting? bluewater Jul 2019 #7

Nice links, but you haven't been able to tell when Biden brought this up. Didn't think so. George II Jul 2019 #9

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt bluewater Jul 2019 #11

Biden didn't bring it up, but he comes out of this smelling like a rose. ucrdem Jul 2019 #14

So how may times in those comments by Biden did he bring up busing? Answer: NONE George II Jul 2019 #17

Someone's projecting about Cha Jul 2019 #15

There was a direct path from his talking about working with the segregationists pnwmom Jul 2019 #29

Now we're at the point of playing the party game "Telephone". George II Jul 2019 #31

And to think *Harris brought this all up nsd Jul 2019 #25

Probably around that time, give or take a year. George II Jul 2019 #3

Jesse Jackson ran in 1984 and 1988. murielm99 Jul 2019 #5

We need to get off the BS and start figuring out how to absolutely beat drumpf. democratisphere Jul 2019 #8

What I heard and I know words are subjective... LakeArenal Jul 2019 #27

The media customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #33