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Hassin Bin Sober

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58. See the article From 2015
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:27 PM
Mar 2019

Tom Perez, you know the guy who leads The Democratic Party, supported the Mello. But Bernie stumps for the guy and he is the devil.

It’s funny how the “tent” is always big enough for a Senator like Manchin who actively votes for anti abortion legislation and supports anti abortion judges. But a local mayor is beyond the pale and anyone who stumps for him is evil.


Just to be clear, Bernie doesn’t now, or never has, harbored any pro life stances or sponsored any pro life/anti abortion laws.

We are not even in the same universe when it comes to support for abortion issues.


Vice President Biden's comments about abortion in America interview kick off new conversations


In an exclusive interview with America released at the beginning of this week, Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. affirmed that pro-life people "absolutely, positively" are welcome in the Democratic party and that he believes, as a Catholic, that "abortion is always wrong." His comments, very different from most contributions to the political conversation about abortion, are blurring some long-established lines in the culture wars and generating significant interest in the media and among commentators.

https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/biden-interview-starts-new-conversations-abortion-debate


Also:

Voting for the Hyde amendment which to this day restricts any federal funds to be used for abortion.

Saying Roe v. Wade “went too far” and he didn’t think “that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body.”


In 1981, successfully proposed an amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, barring US aid from being used for biomedical research related to abortions. He has had a lasting legacy in this respect: to this day, the amendment has remained a part of the laws covering foreign assistance.


I’ll take Bernie’s record any day.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sanders and electability... [View all] RobertDevereaux Mar 2019 OP
Here is another snip from the article: TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #1
One would hope every candidate's team is addressing their candidates weaknesses as Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #4
After reading the pollster's comments I'm reminded of the following: TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #6
I am a woman. And after some of the comments about abortion rights and identity politics, I Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #13
Comments about abortion rights? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #22
Who told us on Maddow that a beleaguered women's health organization is "establishment" ? emulatorloo Mar 2019 #28
Calling PP establishment versus: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #33
Yeah love Bernie's essay on how women get cancer because they won't put out for their revolutionary emulatorloo Mar 2019 #36
You should look at the beginning of this sub thread to see who I was speaking to and about. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #38
Nope...he endorsed Hugh Mello and said we needed to welcome people with opposing views on Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #51
See the article From 2015 Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #58
There is a difference than welcoming those with opposing views...we have a Senator from PA Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #60
Just to be clear. Sanders never supported an amendment to restrict abortions. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #61
Sanders campaign for Mello who did succeed in restricting abortion in Nebraska...so that Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #95
Sen. Sanders voted for the crime bill and against the Immigration bill...he also voted against Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #68
Joe Biden WROTE the damn crime bill. Since we are doing whataboutism. And it was 1994. Not 40 years Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #86
The violence against women act was a provision of that bill you know....and I don't give a damn Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #88
Oh you mean Senator Sanders doesn't currently face "this sort of thing"? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #90
No surprise there!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #2
Electability is an argument I've never understood... TCJ70 Mar 2019 #3
You are right, it makes no sense, especial this time around. marylandblue Mar 2019 #8
Electablity is a key factor in this race Gothmog Mar 2019 #66
Electability isn't a valuable criterion to use to try to sway others... TCJ70 Mar 2019 #89
Willing to bet that EVERY campaign says their candidate is strong... brooklynite Mar 2019 #5
Bernie would be among the least-possible Dems to beat Trump scheming daemons Mar 2019 #7
Trump begins with about 40 % of vote. I think he will be tough to beat and I believe Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #9
That's a poor number for an incumbent. Trump also zero chance of getting 50% of the vote. Zip. Nada. John Fante Mar 2019 #26
He won with numbers like that last time. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #49
Barely. And he needed a ton of help to pull it off. John Fante Mar 2019 #69
With voting supression and cheating...I will take no chances. We need an electable candidate who Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #72
Then Biden is the safest choice. I much prefer him over Bernie anyway. John Fante Mar 2019 #76
I don't think Sen. Sanders is electable myself in a general. Of course if I am wrong he has my vote. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #77
Agreed. Polls mean nothing right now. Whether they're preference polls or hypothetical matchup polls Garrett78 Mar 2019 #10
I think Sanders would beat Trump handily. marylandblue Mar 2019 #12
I'm not so sure about it blue cat Mar 2019 #14
On certain issues, he is not so different. Trump ran on a non-interventionist marylandblue Mar 2019 #16
Trump's foreign policy message called for the US to commit literal war crimes. John Fante Mar 2019 #29
Well allowing for the usual lies and bluster marylandblue Mar 2019 #32
Yeah cool story blue cat Mar 2019 #30
You heard wrong. Bernie called for a NATO "like" organization/coalition to fight ISIS Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #37
Yup bkelly Mar 2019 #45
Fishy no matter the explanation blue cat Mar 2019 #46
Lol. Ok. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #50
RT was pushing the "we need a new 'Nato-like' organization that includes Russia" lapucelle Mar 2019 #55
Bernie would smash Trump. John Fante Mar 2019 #27
No he wouldn't blue cat Mar 2019 #31
And "No, he wouldn't" is your opinion. John Fante Mar 2019 #34
Some opinions border on wishful thinking...not saying yours . Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #52
Fact is, Bernie is extremely popular with large segments of the Democratic base. John Fante Mar 2019 #70
I see no indication of that. I do think he is not popular with large segments of Democrats. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #71
Did you see the Iowa poll over the weekend? Bernie finished a close second to Biden. John Fante Mar 2019 #75
Polls are everywhere... but even if he wins Iowa...North Carolina will be the end. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #80
Iowa is a rural white state radius777 Mar 2019 #85
I also say "No he wouldn't" katmondoo Mar 2019 #53
They also said George McGovern would handily beat Richard Nixon still_one Mar 2019 #79
People ignored the polls, which showed Nixon consistently leading by a wide margin marylandblue Mar 2019 #83
Agree completely!! Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #18
Bernie had major support among independents in 2016. RobertDevereaux Mar 2019 #21
Err, what? Kentonio Mar 2019 #43
Not "among"... the LEAST imo. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #48
I guess people aren't too concerned as to his "likeability" because he's a man.... George II Mar 2019 #63
Bernie is a loser... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #64
I'll be interested to see polling of head to head matchups. David__77 Mar 2019 #11
Sure I totally trust a Sanders pollster NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #15
The avenue of attack Bernie faces in a democratic primary Trenzalore Mar 2019 #17
Correct!! Hopefully he will not be the candidate. The repukes will dig him such a hole to stand in Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #19
The playbook will largely remain the same regardless of the candidate Trenzalore Mar 2019 #20
Sanders' essays and the fate of Burlington college forklift Mar 2019 #24
The die-hard faithful will always think he is electable forklift Mar 2019 #23
Sen. Bernard Sanders (I-Vt) isn't electable in my estimation CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #25
I agree!! OhZone Mar 2019 #35
Sanders can't hold onto the Obama/Clinton coalition. radius777 Mar 2019 #39
The article from the Daily Beast . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #40
And that's just the tip of the iceberg radius777 Mar 2019 #41
That "bread lines are a good thing" enrages me because who's most likely to be in those lines? betsuni Mar 2019 #42
You might want to reconsider saying a Democratic presidential candidate has 'dictatorial sympathies' Kentonio Mar 2019 #44
The facts are the facts. radius777 Mar 2019 #47
Gee! Maybe True Blue American Mar 2019 #57
LOL!! peggysue2 Mar 2019 #62
Do you disagree with his comments? David__77 Mar 2019 #67
I don't think such comments will play well. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #73
What would you call it? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #74
Prediction, something I never do.:) True Blue American Mar 2019 #56
I hope you are right! Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #78
So far True Blue American Mar 2019 #81
I met Joe Biden a number of times when I worked for Pres. Obama's two campaigns. He is a great guy. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #84
There are a LOT of videos out there that will be issues around this time next year. George II Mar 2019 #65
As a Latina, I will never get over his vote on immigration reform. And to add insult to injury, the lunamagica Mar 2019 #54
I strongly do not believe that sanders is electable Gothmog Mar 2019 #59
Agreed. nt OhZone Mar 2019 #82
Electability is my main issue Gothmog Mar 2019 #87
Bernie wrote the platform that all just about all the democratic candidates are running on workinclasszero Mar 2019 #91
Yeah, he wrote FDR's platform too. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #92
..... ehrnst Mar 2019 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #94
Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence Gothmog Apr 2019 #96
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