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In reply to the discussion: Is Bernie 2.0 Eugene McCarthy redux? [View all]Gothmog
(145,130 posts)22. Bernie Sanders is probably just another one-hit wonder
The Washington Post compares sanders to Santorum https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-is-probably-just-another-one-hit-wonder/?utm_term=.38aeb01c0e30
History shows this is likely to seriously hurt Sanders. CNNs Harry Enten has compiled a list of every candidate who finished second in one years primaries and chose to run again the next time. He found that only six of those 13 people won the nomination in his next race, and only one of those (John McCain in 2008) became their partys pick without leading the polls in February of the year before the election. The fact that Sanders runs second now is a strong indicator that he will not be the nominee in 2020.
Sanders seems most similar to two people who fared extremely poorly in their next efforts, Eugene McCarthy and Rick Santorum. McCarthys rise to fame was a lot like Sanderss: He was an obscure senator who challenged a seemingly unbeatable leader (President Lyndon B. Johnson) and attracted young voters and liberals with his anti-Vietnam War stance. His lightning in the bottle forced LBJ to drop out in 1968, but when he tried to attract support on his own in 1972, a younger imitator, Sen. George McGovern (D-S.D.), attracted his voters with a broader left-wing and anti-war appeal. McCarthy finished fifth.
Santorums meteoric rise among Republicans in 2012 was similar. Languishing in the polls as late as January, the former senator from Pennsylvania rocketed to win the Iowa caucuses on the strength of religious conservatives who did not want to nominate Mitt Romney. He rode their backing to finish second, but when he tried again in 2016, religious conservatives looked for the fresh face. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and noted neurosurgeon Ben Carson thrashed Santorum among Iowas religious conservatives. The man who won the state in 2012 received less than 1 percent in 2016 and quickly dropped out.
Sanderss chances are slim even if he regains progressive support from his competitors. While his backers contend that the Democratic establishment rigged the 2016 race in Clintons favor, the fact is Sanders lost because he got wiped out among African American voters. This is a long-standing problem for white, progressive challengers to the Democratic establishment. Since 1984, African American Democratic primary voters have either supported a serious African American candidate or the more moderate among the white candidates. Sanders would face the same challenge that doomed him in 2016 and has shown no indication that he has figured out how to meet it.
Sanders seems most similar to two people who fared extremely poorly in their next efforts, Eugene McCarthy and Rick Santorum. McCarthys rise to fame was a lot like Sanderss: He was an obscure senator who challenged a seemingly unbeatable leader (President Lyndon B. Johnson) and attracted young voters and liberals with his anti-Vietnam War stance. His lightning in the bottle forced LBJ to drop out in 1968, but when he tried to attract support on his own in 1972, a younger imitator, Sen. George McGovern (D-S.D.), attracted his voters with a broader left-wing and anti-war appeal. McCarthy finished fifth.
Santorums meteoric rise among Republicans in 2012 was similar. Languishing in the polls as late as January, the former senator from Pennsylvania rocketed to win the Iowa caucuses on the strength of religious conservatives who did not want to nominate Mitt Romney. He rode their backing to finish second, but when he tried again in 2016, religious conservatives looked for the fresh face. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and noted neurosurgeon Ben Carson thrashed Santorum among Iowas religious conservatives. The man who won the state in 2012 received less than 1 percent in 2016 and quickly dropped out.
Sanderss chances are slim even if he regains progressive support from his competitors. While his backers contend that the Democratic establishment rigged the 2016 race in Clintons favor, the fact is Sanders lost because he got wiped out among African American voters. This is a long-standing problem for white, progressive challengers to the Democratic establishment. Since 1984, African American Democratic primary voters have either supported a serious African American candidate or the more moderate among the white candidates. Sanders would face the same challenge that doomed him in 2016 and has shown no indication that he has figured out how to meet it.
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The reasons Sanders does so poorly among POC and non-millennial women is all about "ideas."
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#36
That's the first I've read of him but when I read his article it was clear where he was coming from
Autumn
Feb 2019
#18
I've been reading Polman a lot as I've spent the last 37 years in Philadelphia.
GoneOffShore
Feb 2019
#21
"...the fact is Sanders lost because he got wiped out among African American voters."
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#28
He has 100% name recognition and he's polling at 12% among African Americans in SC
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#38
He may well be a legitimate contender for the nomination, but does he have a chance in the general?
GoneOffShore
Feb 2019
#39