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PatrickforO

(14,557 posts)
19. The dialog has moved left, and Bernie is no longer alone.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 08:30 PM
Jul 2019

He is not a particularly good manager, and to my mind, while he's always been on the right side of history in major economic issues, he's not gotten a lot of stuff done.

Same with Biden.

My question to both of these gentlemen is this: You have both been in Congress for many years, decades, and in Biden's case been VP. If you are so effective, why are things so much worse now than when you first got into office?

Is that a painful question? Yes, I know it is very stinging. But it is also very legitimate. I'm tired of people talking a good game and then not getting anything done. I'm not thrilled about the record of either Bernie or Biden, though I do like Bernie's policy positions much better.

But in 2020, the Dems need to run someone who can get millennials and gen Z to the polls, and this time around I don't think it is either Bernie or Joe. Both good men, and I will certainly support if either is the nominee, but we have other candidates that can do better, I think. Better against Trump, and better when they get in office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Has Bernie's Window Closed? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 OP
I think it's too early to be asking this. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Jul 2019 #3
It would be great if DownriverDem Jul 2019 #22
He's polling in the top 4, so it's too early to conclude that. Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #2
It's not just his polling position... brooklynite Jul 2019 #4
Sanders is still doing better than any other candidate except Biden in the polls of who could beat highplainsdem Jul 2019 #9
But the polling of who you would vote for shows that people don't care... brooklynite Jul 2019 #12
And the A-rated Fox News poll out four days ago had Sanders in SECOND place. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #17
Because he polls SECOND (behind Biden) in beating Trump... thesquanderer Jul 2019 #20
Harris lost a lot of people today with her health plan that mostly benefits insurers. Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #29
I just want a DownriverDem Jul 2019 #23
If Bernie's window has closed so has the window of the other candidates polling below him. jalan48 Jul 2019 #5
the difference is those below him are unknown to many JI7 Jul 2019 #14
That is true. We should have a better idea by early next year when some candidates have dropped out. jalan48 Jul 2019 #15
We can't wait to vote for Bernie again!! nt RandiFan1290 Jul 2019 #6
Who is "We"? sheshe2 Jul 2019 #27
"We's can't wait we can't""shut up we's can wait""no, no we's can't defacto7 Jul 2019 #28
Our family RandiFan1290 Jul 2019 #31
Have you read three faces of Eve? nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #35
+1 Go Vols Jul 2019 #38
No more than anyone else at the top of the ranks right now. N/t TCJ70 Jul 2019 #7
Don Meredith used to sing a song about this on Monday Night Football many years ago. George II Jul 2019 #8
No. Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #10
Before the second debate out of 14 scheduled held in mid summer 2019? No Tom Rinaldo Jul 2019 #11
A well known candidate has never risen NYMinute Jul 2019 #36
I know he was a Republican, but John McCain did Tom Rinaldo Jul 2019 #37
Yes Tribalceltic Jul 2019 #13
Is this a serious question? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #33
"Is this a serious question?" DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #34
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jul 2019 #18
The dialog has moved left, and Bernie is no longer alone. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #19
Hopefully... handmade34 Jul 2019 #21
Closed, locked, storm shutters installed. betsuni Jul 2019 #24
It was never open... SidDithers Jul 2019 #25
+1 BootinUp Jul 2019 #26
The window was never fully open Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #30
Look, in '16 Bernie was a breath of fresh air to many. Hillary was "the anointed" and there was... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #32
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