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wysimdnwyg

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40. This is what I don't like about her plan, although I like the general idea
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:12 AM
Aug 2019
What this would mean I think is that an individual would be free to pay for her own insurance. If so, that is a huge drawback to Harris’s plan. Not only do many employers offer a group plan, which lowers the premium and ups the coverage, but these plans can carry over in retirement, at which point they supplement Medicare to provide 100 percent coverage.


Polling has made it clear that the American people want a public option, but they want it just that - optional. They want to continue with their private insurance, usually through their employer, but have the public option as a fall-back plan in case of outrageously rising rates or job loss. So while I think the idea of maintaining private plans is good, her idea to make them only Medicare Advantage-type plans on top of MFA doesn't seem like it would be appealing to many people.

Perhaps she could alter her plan in that direction, but I worry that it may already be too late for a significant change. If she does make the change, I hope she has time for her numbers to recover before Iowa. (It probably needs to be a very good change for that to happen.)

Above all else, regardless of whether she changes, or whatever plan she ends up with, she needs to own it and be able to strongly defend it. What she's done so far is wishy-washy and weak.
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I don't think she had an especially good night. When the busing issue (inexplicably) was brought up hlthe2b Aug 2019 #1
I really like her as well, which is why I brought this up. Healthcare is the top priority with the OnDoutside Aug 2019 #4
I think the entire debate health care discussion was a confusing mess... hlthe2b Aug 2019 #8
I hope she does, as if Biden fails, I think Harris is the next best bet. I think Warren is brilliant OnDoutside Aug 2019 #12
+1, even if branch votes weren't an issue some people's health care is paid for by their... uponit7771 Aug 2019 #16
I had heard a suggestion by Jon Lovett a couple of months ago, which I thought would be a very OnDoutside Aug 2019 #24
+1, the campaign managers have to be prepared for the "please twerk right now" questions ... uponit7771 Aug 2019 #15
I don't think healthcare can be thoughtfully discussed Midnightwalk Aug 2019 #30
Bennett said True Blue American Aug 2019 #9
I certainly Don't. Cha Aug 2019 #42
Hi, Cha True Blue American Aug 2019 #43
Was it El Paso? Cha Aug 2019 #45
No True Blue American Aug 2019 #46
I saw that later Cha Aug 2019 #47
Trump was in Cincinnati Ohio True Blue American Aug 2019 #48
omg Cha Aug 2019 #49
Of course it is. True Blue American Aug 2019 #50
Kamala needs to drop out...just remain doing a good job in Senate Rene Aug 2019 #20
What do you consider "victimhood"? ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #21
she gets this a lot as an accomplished black woman bigtree Aug 2019 #23
Accusing folks of using RW talking points or concepts is a deflection. You can rebut the concept emmaverybo Aug 2019 #51
Wow! Ignore. shenmue Aug 2019 #52
Let's see what the polls say this week. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #2
"Her platform is very fluid." wyldwolf Aug 2019 #6
Hi, SP.. Cha Aug 2019 #10
My favorite was Warren for the primary. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #18
Whoa, glad I asked! Cha Aug 2019 #19
While he's not my first choice (or second) this is a fantastic description of why people like Biden wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #38
I like the idea of True Blue American Aug 2019 #44
i think some of the candidates made a mistake in letting Biden own the issue of being the defender JI7 Aug 2019 #3
I agree, though to be fair, Joe held back in declaring, so all the early candidates had to mark OnDoutside Aug 2019 #5
Yeah, and now it seems the Defender Cha Aug 2019 #11
This too, most Americans like Obama care and think it can be built on. uponit7771 Aug 2019 #14
The other mistake they make is to tie themselves to plans that realistically can not be, all or emmaverybo Aug 2019 #53
Kamala kept touting the stamp of approval by Kathleen Sibelius as oasis Aug 2019 #7
THANK YOU !!! I know people who get their health care paid for by their companies !!! I agree on Bid uponit7771 Aug 2019 #13
I don't even watch these debates but I keep feeling bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #17
Somebody made a very good observation on twitter Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #22
I think there's definitely something to that. And remember the only non-ACA solution at the time she OnDoutside Aug 2019 #25
This! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #26
I think she is setting herself up to evolve. In speaking to Anderson post-debate, she said she has emmaverybo Aug 2019 #29
I agree with all that. The one constant I see in all countries is OnDoutside Aug 2019 #32
Yes. You are right. Other Western countries spend less and have better outcomes, though given emmaverybo Aug 2019 #34
There is a great element of service for those working in the NHS. OnDoutside Aug 2019 #35
This is what I don't like about her plan, although I like the general idea wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #40
I agree. Her plan is simply Sanders' plan with a 10 year transition instead of 4 years. Hoyt Aug 2019 #27
I think the Electoral College will be constitutionally abolished before Medicare for All becomes law elocs Aug 2019 #28
Ten years to implement and into a Republican administration! Hortensis Aug 2019 #31
Agreed. This is an issue on which she'll need to evolve, as politicians often do. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #33
As we were on this topic yesterday, there is a new podcast discussing this exact issue, inc Kamala's OnDoutside Aug 2019 #36
A point from earlier in the podcast was that September's debate will bring the heavy hitters OnDoutside Aug 2019 #37
This Harris supporter agrees with you... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #39
Thanks OnDoutside Aug 2019 #41
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