Democratic Primaries

myohmy2

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8. trump...

Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:25 AM

Aug 2019

...will attack whoever our candidate is as a 'Communist'...so let's get that off the table...

...I feel Bernie does the best job of answering and solving our nation's problems in the most egalitarian way...Bernie has the fire in the belly needed for the tough fight ahead to the White House...he passionately believes in what he's saying and what he wants to do and he wants you to passionately believe it too...

...map or no map, no one can predict how people will vote or what the mood of the country will be a year and a half out...they spend billions trying to figure it out but it's all guess work at this point...

...but when you look to our future with hope, passion and the enlightened policies we need, no one is even close to Bernie with solutions that address what I feel America wants, demands and will ultimately support...and Bernie is more than capable of standing up to all republicans as he makes the case...

...read for yourself,

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I am posting two Electoral College maps;one we win,the other we don't. (poll) [View all] Demsrule86 Aug 2019 OP

Michigan DownriverDem Aug 2019 #1

Michigan has some strong Trump supporters...if we run a really Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #4

HRC had a record that was only slightly to the left of Biden and she was more hawkish karynnj Aug 2019 #20

You are comparing apples too oranges...this was not a right left thing. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #43

Obama and Kerry both won those three states karynnj Aug 2019 #90

Michigan is not going to vote for Trump... SidDithers Aug 2019 #26

He's permanently lost at LEAST 5% of his 2016 voters in Michigan. blm Aug 2019 #28

The polls did not favor him in 2016 either...keep that in mind...all it Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #45

+1 -K&R onetexan Aug 2019 #92

It could also happen if we run Biden. ZZenith Aug 2019 #130

Anything could happen...but odds are in our favor that Biden can win Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #131

We don't have to take back the blue wall states TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #2

Beto didn't win Texas ub 2018... brooklynite Aug 2019 #3

And Biden hasn't won the blue wall states ever. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #7

Democrats won MI, WI and PA in 2018. Democrats didn't win TX in 2018. brooklynite Aug 2019 #14

So if Democrats won MI, WI, and PA in 2018 without Biden on the ticket, TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #23

Those were not statewide races...we won in Texas too but not statewide with Beto. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #78

You need to start with house seats and the legislature...and a Senate seat...before we won Virginia, Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #148

Are you seriously saying winning Texas is easier than winning PA, MI and WI??? karynnj Aug 2019 #24

You are relying heavily on Joe riding Obama's coattails. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #40

Joe helped Obama win the Mid west in 08 and 12. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #79

Mmm, a number of polls have shown one candidate ahead of Trump in Texas Rstrstx Aug 2019 #103

Yes he has. He won them for Obama...saw him to do it twice. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #47

No, people don't usually vote for the second spot on the presidential ticket. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #97

Biden was sent to Ohio for exactly that...and Biden is well liked in Ohio... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #127

Your OP stated "show me how we win without the blue wall states." TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #133

I was talking about the mid west...Ohio is not a must win state...we need Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #134

I showed you the way. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #139

Excellent point! bluewater Aug 2019 #91

And when pigs fly...we couldn't beat the most hated GOP in the Senate...we are Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #5

i thought we had a shot with TX due to the Hispanic vote. It is not to be taken for granted, however CTyankee Aug 2019 #109

I see where you are coming from...but we can't afford to put all our eggs in Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #110

i wish I had a crystal ball on this... CTyankee Aug 2019 #113

Me too...I went to High School in Ridgefield by the way...also lived in Brookfield... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #123

in New Haven. I love it here. I'm in a great community, a neighborhood near the Yale Bowl. CTyankee Aug 2019 #125

I used to sneak into the Yale Library...it was better than ours... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #132

Also you post shows why we need the blue wall...even with Texas we barely win. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #6

No, what it means is that we would only need one out of the three blue wall states TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #9

Which states does Biden not have a link to karynnj Aug 2019 #27

Voters have short memories and the auto bailout was over ten years ago. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #38

The auto bailout saved thousands of jobs and probably the economy...people haven't Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #80

Joe Biden leads race for campaign donors in Delaware, but not Philadelphia PADemD Aug 2019 #118

Joe will take PA and money isn't votes...he has the best chance by far. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #145

Actually, individual donations are votes. PADemD Aug 2019 #153

Not even close to votes...Polls show Biden takes PA...not many out there but I am confident Biden Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #154

Actually that was based on a bait and switch article...they used numbers before Biden got in for Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #164

That is not true...we could end up with a tie if one of them wasn't WI. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #48

Sure and we could get Georgia, Arizona or Carolina... but the odds are not good...we Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #147

TX in 2020 is unlikely, Beto or otherwise. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #12

Just making the GOP have to fight for TX is HUGE NYMinute Aug 2019 #22

No it is not...without the blue wall, it would be useless...we can't Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #49

Texas will not flip until Dems re-establish some control at the State Level Lithos Aug 2019 #88

I agree with this point too... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #163

trump... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #8

Policies are nothing if we can't win. I do not believe Sanders can win as Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #50

Any of them CAN win those states, though some have better chances than others. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #10

Well I can't change it now...but you are right...so put it in Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #51

Polls show others beating Biden in these states as well. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #59

Sander is the only one over 50 % besides Biden...but there are few state polls these Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #62

which you base on nothing qazplm135 Aug 2019 #77

One does not have to get over 50% to win. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #96

True that. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #100

We need to win big to circumvent the usual cheating by the Gop and not all of them can win...I stil Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #165

Bill Clinton carried Arizona in 1996 amb123 Aug 2019 #11

AZ more likely to go blue than getting all 3 iffy Midwest states imo lunasun Aug 2019 #31

No it is not...24 years since it went blue and before that didn't go blue either... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #63

Unlikely...we will be lucky to take the Senate seat...hope we do. But even if what you say is true.. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #149

A different world back then..he also carried Arkansas and Tennessee. I see Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #52

Biden MIGHT be able to take Arizona; none of the others would stand a chance LongtimeAZDem Aug 2019 #87

That is true...having him as nominee would help with the Senate seat also. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #135

I disagree that only a moderate can win MI, WI, and PA. yardwork Aug 2019 #13

Hillary Clinton boosted turnout in the Democratic cities... brooklynite Aug 2019 #15

Is that true? I hadn't heard that we did better in the cities than in 2012. yardwork Aug 2019 #16

Yes, according to the Ohio Democratic Party Chair brooklynite Aug 2019 #70

I'm asking about Pennsylvania. yardwork Aug 2019 #106

There is truth to that...and Biden will do better in rural counties too. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #64

Northampton County, PA, Election Results by Precinct PADemD Aug 2019 #18

Ok, but this is just one county. Rural voters usually vote R. yardwork Aug 2019 #21

College Towns in Northampton County, PA PADemD Aug 2019 #29

What was the turnout and percent of Democratic vote in 2012 vs 2016? yardwork Aug 2019 #30

See reply 116. PADemD Aug 2019 #119

Northampton County PADemD Aug 2019 #44

That supports my point, then. yardwork Aug 2019 #54

Clearly we need to get vote from different areas not just for the presidency but for the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #65

Why do only BS supporters claim "no one stayed home" and "no one voted for Stein?" NYMinute Aug 2019 #25

Saw some Stein signs here Freddie Aug 2019 #32

I like all our candidates...just want to win. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #66

Total 2016 votes for Northampton County PADemD Aug 2019 #34

So obviously many stayed at home believing the narrative of DNC rigging. nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #36

Stein took 49,941 votes in PA. Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #46

I'm asking for comparison with 2012. yardwork Aug 2019 #56

Biden saved Obama in 12...I saw it in Ohio...the first polls were a disaster for us. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #68

Interesting! yardwork Aug 2019 #107

I really was worried. Biden and Bill Clinton came repeatedly...in fact Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #111

The Dems didn't stay home in Northampton County PADemD Aug 2019 #116

This is very interesting. yardwork Aug 2019 #122

That is not really true...I live in the Mid West...and we lost because Trump Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #53

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #17

Due to the disastrous efeects of Trump' tariffs NYMinute Aug 2019 #37

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #39

No they are not...not true at all...we all know that tariffs aren't bad when Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #55

Trump has permanently lost at least 2% of ALL voters and he isn't adding any. blm Aug 2019 #19

The jobs aren't coming back speech you have in mind will send them to the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #57

WTF you talking about? You just made up a reply based on RW attack blm Aug 2019 #67

That is not an attack...I am familiar...and I have seen no real solutions...on a Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #69

You haven't a clue how she's running. Your scare tactic here is made up and absurd. blm Aug 2019 #71

It is not a scare tactic...and she running on so many policy initiatives I have lost count... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #72

Let us know why you used aRW lie against Obama blm Aug 2019 #73

I love Obama worked for his campaign...never said that...taking that out of Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #74

What RW lie do you refer to...time to post it or stop the attack on me...which is Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #76

Oh please. Now you never heard of it? blm Aug 2019 #84

No I didn't actually, but then I don't read conservative crap often...however Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #86

You must not battle RWers on line then. blm Aug 2019 #89

No I don't battle right wingers online...occasionally reply to twitter but that is Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #95

You are right TheFarseer Aug 2019 #94

I never suggested Warren would say that...she is smart...we were talking in Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #99

My mistake TheFarseer Aug 2019 #105

Maybe I wasn't clear...no worries. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #120

I made no mention of Pres. Obama so I have idea where you got that... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #75

YOU referred to the"jobs aren't coming back speech" blm Aug 2019 #81

Um...that was said way before Obama...as far as I know Pres. Obama never said that... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #82

Denial much? blm Aug 2019 #85

Any way you look at it, we've got a large red swath of stupid going on in this country. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #33

This is why I believe Biden is the best perhaps the only one who can beat Trump Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #58

Kick to show it will not be easy lunasun Aug 2019 #35

Those who believe anyone can beat Trump and it will be easy are wrong. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #60

Trump's approval #'s in WI, MI, & PA jcgoldie Aug 2019 #41

2016 approval rating...Health care is the issue to run on. It worked Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #61

I don't accept the premise of the question FBaggins Aug 2019 #42

Nor Do I Me. Aug 2019 #83

At this point I think it's Cha Aug 2019 #93

I agree Cha! Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #98

The Rust Belt Myth lives on, sadly. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #101

No, thanks just the same... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #102

There have been so many articles about it that it's hard to believe people still fall for the myth. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #104

Irony is dead. Princetonian Aug 2019 #115

That has absolutely nothing to do with the Rust Belt Myth. Try again. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #121

"But you can believe whatever you want. Ignorance is bliss." Princetonian Aug 2019 #124

The maps I posted show what happens if we we win the blue wall states and if we don't... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #126

The myths center around what happened in 2016 and why. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #129

Seriously? I want Biden because he can win specific states that others Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #136

"Statement politics" means everything to some and can distort reality to suit the passion for emmaverybo Aug 2019 #143

Well that explains a great deal...I have been unable to understand why some think certain Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #150

OP never said that. Resorting to a flimsy strawman is a sign of a losing argument. Princetonian Aug 2019 #146

Florida is a big swing state that should not be ignored IronLionZion Aug 2019 #108

Amen... absolutely right on target. Florida will be not forgotten. Princetonian Aug 2019 #117

In 2008, Biden supporters were the most respectful and polite of all the candidates IronLionZion Aug 2019 #155

We lost a sitting Senator in Florida...and Biden would help with this state too... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #137

I worry about wisconsin. I fear it is become more red as time goes on. Joe941 Aug 2019 #112

Me too...and it is a must win state...but we do have a senate seat there so... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #138

I don't see your second map happening at all. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #114

The second map is if we win the three states back. It shows what happens if we do win the states, Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #141

I think Biden can take those three states to stop Trump...and maybe more. he has ties to Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #158

it is unfortunate that these maps are taken seriously. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #128

Are you kidding...this is how we win...and how we lost in 16... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #140

Actually we lost in 2016 Andy823 Aug 2019 #142

It certainly hurt us Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #152

If we win WI, PA, and MI, Trump on has 3 remotely possible paths to win, and 2 are 269-269 ties Celerity Aug 2019 #144

Interesting post... I think it is unlikely that Nevada goes red...taking the rust belt is our best Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #151

just now on MSNBC, these 4 states are what Trump is going to focus on a lot to flip Celerity Aug 2019 #160

I don't believe that...his best chance for those states was 2016. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #162

Don't believe he is going to focus on those, or don't believe he can flip them? Celerity Aug 2019 #166

I wanted to add thanks...and I have to say ...Trump must be desperate to pin his chances on Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #167

+1 Celerity Aug 2019 #168

Back at you great find...you should consider making it a post on DU primaries... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #169

Don't Write Off Texas And Arizona Vogon_Glory Aug 2019 #156

We need to go after every state and maybe get the Senate that way...but the easiest way to Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #157

Florida removes the need for any 2 of those states (nt) Recursion Aug 2019 #159

We lost the governorship in 18 and a sitting Senator...Florida is unlikely and can't be counted on.. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #161

Now we have proof that Joe is the only Democrat can beat Trump. Princetonian Aug 2019 #170