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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!

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Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:30 AM

33. He is confusing working class white with moderate.


They are not the same thing. He is exactly right that

“When I speak to them they say we didn’t leave the Democratic Party. They left us. They stopped talking to us.”

But, ahem, that's the thesis of What's the Matter with Kansas, the brilliant 2004 book by Thomas Frank that is as true today as it was then, and it exactly explains why some the industrial Midwest voted Trump. Yes, we all know that racism and misogyny and voter suppression and Clinton's campaign mistakes and Facebook propaganda produced by Russian troll farms and etc. all played a role in the 2016 debacle -- but so did the fact that Trump was able to persuade a not insignificant number of people who voted for Obama to also vote for him. And he did this by pretending to hear and understand and have plans to address their wage stagnation, their job insecurity, the hollowed out manufacturing base in their home towns and the clear lack of a reliable path to the middle class even after 8 years of solid growth. A solution to all of that will not be found by aiming for the mythical center voter and doubling down on neoliberalism. These voters want to hear plans for change, not plans for a return to the Obama years that for better or worse, left many behind (especially if you did not live on the coasts or in thriving big cities -- and even there you have an affordable housing crisis and homeless college students).

Since the great recession, only the top 30% has recovered their wealth loss (and then some!). That means 70% of us are still worse off than we were when the recession hit in 2007. Great chart available here: https://www.apnews.com/df1ca4016d27405791c10eb5772c06a4

And it is not just wealth, it is also income. The top 1% are hogging up most of the incomes gains. Again, a super chart is available here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html?module=inline (scroll down to the second chart to see it in motion).

People feel this lack of fairness, they feel this insecurity, they see and feel that most of the best opportunities are out of reach unless they are already in the top half of the income scale. They are looking for bold, progressive economic proposals, not more middle of the road "rising tides lift all boats" bullshit.

My two cents.
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