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ehrnst

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89. The fact that he represents Vermont as an Independent is not irrelevant to the voters in Vermont.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:10 AM
Sep 2019
The DNC, you know that organization, considerers him a Democrat. I'll take their word on that unless you can change it.


Can you provide a link to where they say that he's a Democrat? Not "filed for candidacy as a Democrat," but an actual capital D Democrat - identifying as one in his position as a politician.

Because otherwise, your're insinuating that that Senator Sanders' staff, the Senate, and Bernie himself are as you put it "liars" - or "getting forgetful."

That's pretty harsh.



https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/poverty-a-death-sentence-sanders-declares-as-gao-links-inequality-to-mortality



http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=S000033

But do tell us what's got you rooting for Steyer, Autumn? Throwing your hat into the ring for a billionaire Wall Street Goldman Sachs hedge fund manager is a BIG u-turn for you, isn't it?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
re: "What prompted me was the headline that Bernie isn't afraid of splitting the Progressive vote." thesquanderer Sep 2019 #1
EW will strongly support the Democrat no matter who it is. Bernie has not demonstrated that. n/t pnwmom Sep 2019 #8
Bernie was the first to sign the pledge to do so. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #9
The pledge can't require anyone to give whole-hearted, enthusiastic support. n/t pnwmom Sep 2019 #19
who campaigned more for hc after the primary? questionseverything Sep 2019 #21
Interesting question. I know Obama campaigned for her a lot. Are you sure Sanders campaigned more? thesquanderer Sep 2019 #26
i am not sure..can't find obamas final numbers for same time frame questionseverything Sep 2019 #31
Bernie didn't do a single event for Hillary in June, July, or August, and only did 2 in September. pnwmom Sep 2019 #36
the convention wasn't until the end of july...so you could hardly expect him to campaign for her questionseverything Sep 2019 #40
All the R's candidates dropped out and got behind Trump in April, and Bernie had no mathematical pnwmom Sep 2019 #41
as a progressive , i see convention time to be the best time to force the party left questionseverything Sep 2019 #46
"he really had no path from before the first vote" ehrnst Sep 2019 #90
... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #92
..... ehrnst Sep 2019 #93
Clinton was the presumptive nominee as of 6/6/16. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #43
HRC won the number of pledged delegates needed be the Democratic nominee on June 6, ehrnst Sep 2019 #91
hc said there was no hurry when obama had wrapped it up questionseverything Sep 2019 #100
Not sure what you mean. ehrnst Sep 2019 #105
the video i posted speaks for itself questionseverything Sep 2019 #107
Even after the fight has been lost? ehrnst Sep 2019 #108
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #109
You believe our presidential nominee's words wouldn't Hortensis Sep 2019 #110
i wasn't in opposition in 2008 or 2012 when obama was the nominee questionseverything Sep 2019 #111
What is the problem with Superdelegates? After all, ehrnst Sep 2019 #112
Oh, I forgot Sanders was a superdelegate. So I misspoke Hortensis Sep 2019 #115
Why were you in opposition in 2016 after your fellow Hortensis Sep 2019 #113
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #114
To be fair, he was a bit busy that August... ehrnst Sep 2019 #49
Why Bernie garners so much respect!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #47
Just not as a Democratic Senator. ehrnst Sep 2019 #50
Shaun King? George II Sep 2019 #98
What was the reason that the pledge was considered necessary again? ehrnst Sep 2019 #39
IMO? To remove doubt that was unfounded in the first place. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #42
Unfounded? ehrnst Sep 2019 #44
As I said, yes, unfounded, *IMO*. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #66
That's not what the pledge was about - it was about promising to ehrnst Sep 2019 #74
Not sure what you're talking about. Here is the entirety of the pledge: thesquanderer Sep 2019 #80
Then we're talking about different pledges. ehrnst Sep 2019 #82
I keep in mind that not everyone thinks like me. DownriverDem Sep 2019 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #58
I think one is more electable. laurieu Sep 2019 #52
re: "I'll go with the Progressive front runner" thesquanderer Sep 2019 #64
They're definitely hurting one another's chances. The difference is Warren could actually... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #116
Welcome! FM123 Sep 2019 #2
Yep . . Glad to have you with us ! OldManTarHeel Sep 2019 #10
that will show him! mikeysnot Sep 2019 #3
A good move. defacto7 Sep 2019 #4
Neither Bernie or Liz are afraid of splitting the Progressive vote. Autumn Sep 2019 #5
I've never even remotely seen that attitude from Warren. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #6
Only one is a Democrat happy feet Sep 2019 #12
Hate to burst your bubble but both are Democrats. Unless you consider party leaders to be liars. Autumn Sep 2019 #13
Hate to tell you DownriverDem Sep 2019 #20
Hate to tell you but he's running under the Democratic banner AS a Democrat in this Autumn Sep 2019 #22
Hate to tell you, but he serves in his job as Jr. Sen. from Vermont, in which he is listed (I-VT) ehrnst Sep 2019 #25
Yes. Thank you. The "as-a" qualifier really doesn't do it for me. I want the REAL THING! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #53
No, he's an Independent who runs as a Democrat... TwilightZone Sep 2019 #45
According to the Democratic Party he's running as a Democrat in the Democratic primaries. Autumn Sep 2019 #51
So sorry... but "as a" isn't as good as the genuine article. I prefer a FULL TIME Democrat who's NurseJackie Sep 2019 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #59
So now you approve of the DNC, eh Autumn? Cary Sep 2019 #67
Good catch! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #73
Ikr? Cary Sep 2019 #76
I know... being CONCERNED that people here were calling the DNC "liars." ehrnst Sep 2019 #83
Yes, which is it? Cary Sep 2019 #103
According to his Staff, he's Ind, Senator who only identifies as D when he's campaigning. ehrnst Sep 2019 #78
This is from his own Senate web page: George II Sep 2019 #68
Take it up with the DNC George, they have him listed as a Democrat. Autumn Sep 2019 #72
Take it up with his office and Senate.gov that he's a Democrat and not an Independent... ehrnst Sep 2019 #79
I don't have to take it up with anyone, Autumn. Virtually everyone here knows what he is.... George II Sep 2019 #85
I like the Democratic candidate from Vermont George. I'm curious, as Undecided why are Autumn Sep 2019 #86
The fact that he represents Vermont as an Independent is not irrelevant to the voters in Vermont. ehrnst Sep 2019 #89
Not when he's at work, doing his job, but only when he's on the campaign trail for POTUS ehrnst Sep 2019 #23
What party leader(s) has stated that Senator Sanders serves as a Democrat? ehrnst Sep 2019 #24
No, actually he's an Independent, and doesn't consider himself to be a Democrat. ehrnst Sep 2019 #27
And then there's this... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #63
Do you consider Senate.gov and his staffers to be liars? ehrnst Sep 2019 #81
Indeed. It's Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT). ehrnst Sep 2019 #34
Are we saying that Warren has agreed to drop out rather then split the vote? This post is confusing Dorn Sep 2019 #18
Good point JonLP24 Sep 2019 #35
Welcome LittleGirl Sep 2019 #7
Since they both have similar platforms LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #11
The "super delegates" will nominate Warren over Bernie on the second ballot. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #14
I agree with you, MasonDreams. laurieu Sep 2019 #57
Which Democratic candidate do you think is only doing what "the Donor class wants?" (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #84
It's just another catch phrase used to bash those Democrats.... George II Sep 2019 #87
You know Bernie became a "super delegate" in 2015, before he ran for POTUS, right? ehrnst Sep 2019 #88
Sen. Sanders has worked within the system. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #94
So, you're saying that he was a "Super delegate," but didn't really mean it? ehrnst Sep 2019 #95
I could be wrong, I only took one course in poli sci but, MasonDreams Sep 2019 #96
Well, as Samantha Bee put it: ehrnst Sep 2019 #97
Was he a super delegate and did not mean it? MasonDreams Sep 2019 #99
sounds good to me proud patriot Sep 2019 #15
👍🏽 we can do it Sep 2019 #16
Not there yet. djacq Sep 2019 #17
I switched from Biden to Warren a few weeks ago. She can beat Trump. Auggie Sep 2019 #28
i voted for bernie in 2016. barbtries Sep 2019 #30
Castro is in my top 5 blm Sep 2019 #55
me too! barbtries Sep 2019 #60
It's a good group blm Sep 2019 #62
we have an embarrassment of riches. barbtries Sep 2019 #65
"we have an embarrassment of riches" FM123 Sep 2019 #77
So now you're voting for a Democrat. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #32
Certainly a step in the right direction LakeArenal Sep 2019 #33
Welcome aboard! jcgoldie Sep 2019 #37
I Love Bernie - I've Still Got His Sign In My Window DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #38
Well, we did have a Democratic female candidate that got more votes than ehrnst Sep 2019 #48
Thank you katmondoo Sep 2019 #56
A move in the right direction randr Sep 2019 #61
It's not a "vote", it's a preference customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #69
Congratulations on choosing a Democratic candidate question everything Sep 2019 #70
Welcome to the Persistance! backtoblue Sep 2019 #71
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2019 #75
Funny, I just changed my vote from Warren to Sanders. Snarkyboots8 Sep 2019 #101
Yes samplegirl Sep 2019 #102
Bernie has my primary vote. CentralMass Sep 2019 #104
I love Sanders and it was extremely difficult to change mvd Sep 2019 #106
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