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Showing Original Post only (View all)Biden's answer on 'repairing the legacy of slavery' and 'inequality in schools and race' [View all]
...brought forward a response from the former VP which harkened back to something he got into hot water for in 2007.
...the question
Mr. Vice president, I want to come to you and talk to you about inequality in schools and race. In a conversation about how to deal with segregation in schools back in 1975, you told a reporter, "I don't feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather, I feel responsible for what the situation is today, for the sins of my own generation, and I'll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago."
You said that some 40 years ago. But as you stand here tonight, what responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?
...Biden's answer:
BIDEN: Well, they have to deal with the -- look, there's institutional segregation in this country. And from the time I got involved, I started dealing with that. Red-lining banks, making sure that we are in a position where -- look, you talk about education. I propose that what we take is those very poor schools, the Title I schools, triple the amount of money we spend from 15 to $45 billion a year. Give every single teacher a raise, the equal raise to getting out -- the $60,000 level.
Number two, make sure that we bring in to help the teachers deal with the problems that come from home. The problems that come from home, we need -- we have one school psychologist for every 1,500 kids in America today. It's crazy.
The teachers are -- I'm married to a teacher. My deceased wife is a teacher. They have every problem coming to them. We have -- make sure that every single child does, in fact, have 3-, 4-, and 5-year-olds go to school. School. Not daycare. School. We bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children.
It's not want they don't want to help. They don't -- they don't know quite what to do. Play the radio, make sure the television -- excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the -- the -- make sure that kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school -- a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time they get there.
Here's what I'm looking at here. I'm not 100% certain Biden was speaking specifically about black kids, but I'm fairly certain.
It's a problematic answer which assumes the things he's proscribing aren't already being offered children in black families. I don't know what he believes would precipitate bringing a 'social worker into homes,' or why he believes those families don't know how to raise their children.
It's a problematic answer, even if he's just referring to 'poor kids,' but it's an odd response to 'inequality' in schools, which I don't believe was meant to be a reflection of the financial status of families, but rather about the inequality in resources in black communities compared to others.
Going on about 'problems brought from home' appears to blame these children and their families for broken school systems which are beside the point about families which may be having difficulty.
And here's what's puzzling to me about Biden's answer. This is the same kind of response which got him into hot water a decade ago, interestingly, using much the same argument, but his spokespeople later insisting then that he was only talking about poor families, not black families.
here's what he said in 2007:
WASHINGTON (CNN) - In what the Washington Post is describing as a "stumble," Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said in an interview with the paper Wednesday that Washington's high minority population is one of the reasons for the city's education problems.
Explaining why schools in Iowa are performing better than those in Washington, D.C., Biden told the Post, "There's less than one percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than four of five percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."
"When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there's no books, where the mother from the time they're born doesn't talk to them - as opposed to the mother in Iowa who's sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts out with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before the kid steps foot in the classroom," the Delaware Democrat added.
The paper reports Biden's campaign quickly sought to clarify the remarks, saying in a statement that the senator was not making a "race-based distinction" but rather a "socio-economic" one.
Where is Biden getting this stuff? It's offensive to ALL families, on its face, and just wild if he's talking about black families, in particular, which he appears to do in both instances.
I know what to expect here questioning Biden on his comments on race, but I do not believe he's a racist. I do, however, think he's tone-deaf and outright regressive in these remarks.
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Biden's answer on 'repairing the legacy of slavery' and 'inequality in schools and race' [View all]
bigtree
Sep 2019
OP
That might be the worst answer I've heard from Joe... indeed, out of any candidate in the 3 debates.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#76
That Rolling Stone piece provides a perspective that is unfortunate, but based in fact.
thesquanderer
Sep 2019
#5
FYI: The rollingstone article referenced was posted this morning and admin immediately took it down
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#6
Wait people post here they will never vote for Bernie or Castro needs to go but a mainstream media
lunasun
Sep 2019
#32
He needs to learn to say "disadvantaged families" as all AAs aren't poor. It's a small thing...
brush
Sep 2019
#51
Yes, it's not that hard. Symone Sanders is on his staff. This should be done ASAP as his lexicon...
brush
Sep 2019
#63
Joe can survive this, but only if he holds a press conference ASAP & apologizes for these remarks.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#82
Hate only hides, it doesn't go away. We have not relegated white supremacy and racism to the pages o
Gothmog
Sep 2019
#103
the problem is biden has no clue how poor you have to be to qualify for medicaid
questionseverything
Sep 2019
#30
No doubt Joe's advisors are working overtime tonight!! I think Joe's campaign can survive...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#83
I'm sorry but her reading and purposefully weaving that 40yr old quote into the 'question' gave it
UniteFightBack
Sep 2019
#10
Yeah, god forbid he actually explain how his current views are different than his old views.
Cuthbert Allgood
Sep 2019
#95
well, you were on to it when you said Biden was 'relying on past decades of popular thinking'
bigtree
Sep 2019
#19
Sad is the right word... and shocking. Couldn't believe that rambling answer.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#109
A LOT worse... that's why Joe needs to immediately hold a press conference and apologize
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#90
Joe butchered it alright... so why not just come out with an apology and statement
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#84
You mean that Cornguy story? The Obit for the guy has what Biden called him and
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#99
Biden's answer, besides being incoherent, was tone deaf paternalistic racism
Fiendish Thingy
Sep 2019
#23
Obama selecting him as his vice president doesn't absolve Biden of any responsibility for addressing
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#33
I have several close friends who are white who have a long way to go on race
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#38
Insisting that questioning someone's record on race is an "attack" is a big part of the problem
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#43
Biden as running mate was a strategic choice. Obama didn't want Biden to run for president.
Garrett78
Sep 2019
#37
Thankfully, no one argued it ab absolved Biden of responsibility. Only you mentioned it as such.
LanternWaste
Sep 2019
#97
We can't afford to make any missteps in 2020... this election is WAY too important!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#86
Anyone who objects to affirmative actions because "I ain't my fault" is wallowing in their privilege
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2019
#35
Interesting take... clearly Joe's time has come and gone. That third debate pretty much sealed it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#88
The question is a complex one, not ideal for a debate format, and it does involve one's environment
still_one
Sep 2019
#54
Hillary led with black voters at this point, against Obama, something Biden acknowledged
bigtree
Sep 2019
#64
your new thing is to accuse posters of holding/expressing an opinion or other to 'advance Harris'
bigtree
Sep 2019
#72
Not being part of the black community it's clear you're not aware of recent developments. There is..
brush
Sep 2019
#80
Most polls don't separate age groups among demographic segments but if they did they'd find...
brush
Sep 2019
#94
FYI: He leads with older black voters. Many GenXers and Millenials have issues with many stances...
brush
Sep 2019
#85
It's more than a bit concerning. It's not 1950 and this isn't a Republican Primary.
Garrett78
Sep 2019
#74
A BIT concerning?! Now there's an understatement!! Joe needs to call a press conference tomorrow
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#81
Just wow!! Joe's debate answer was shocking...didn't realize tho just how offensive it really was
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2019
#79
Today, we honor Addie Mae, Cynthia, Carole, Denise, and recommit to defeating the poisonous ideology
Gothmog
Sep 2019
#106
I am shocked that more Dems just dismiss his answer and are fine with it.
Cuthbert Allgood
Sep 2019
#96
Or they point to a scripted speech to suggest his unscripted moments don't matter.
Garrett78
Sep 2019
#114